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The Michael Shermer Show, 308. The Blind Storyteller: How We Reason About Human Nature (8)

308. The Blind Storyteller: How We Reason About Human Nature (8)

2 (1h 20m 37s):

Yeah. They were called a prophet. Yes.

1 (1h 20m 39s):

Yeah, we're called a prophet. Right? Yeah. Very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen this recently with the kind of re a reconfiguring autism in the autism spectrum as more of cognitive diversity is the term that's being used now. So it's not a disease, it's not a problem. It's, in fact, it's a interesting different way of thinking. Somebody like a temple Brandon, or maybe even Elon Musk, you know, famously went on Saturday Night Live and, you know, I'm the first autistic person to host Saturday Night Live that we know of. Right. The implication being there's, you know, maybe a lot of creative people are on the spectrum, and that's kind of a way of rethinking about those issues.

2 (1h 21m 20s):

Yeah, absolutely.

1 (1h 21m 22s):

Yeah. Iris, give us kind of the, the take home 30 picture from 30,000 feet of what your research and your book is and, and, and going forward, how we might change the way we think about human nature to have a more just and moral society.

2 (1h 21m 45s):

I, I think that the best advice is start by knowing ourselves, knowing, you know, so hopefully by recognizing this, you know, forces that make us think in this irrational fashion, you know, that can do some good. So the examples of psychiatric disorders is one really painful case where, where this biases really lead US history. So hopefully this, what I was trying to basically do it a little bit of psychotherapy in this book, right? See all these crazy things that the crazy thought patterns and, and hopefully recognize them, will help recognizing them, will help stop them and, and prevent us from continuing on this path.

1 (1h 22m 31s):

Interesting. To come back a century from now or 500 years from now, like we look back on the middle ages or the early modern period before the enlightenment and the scientific revolution of how people conceived of human nature then, or witches or demons or, you know, possession or whatever they, they thought. And we look at that and go, boy, that's ridiculous. We have a really scientific theory of human nature now maybe 500 years from now they look back on us and go, boy, they were so primitive they didn't understand X or whatever.

2 (1h 23m 0s):

Well we already see that,

1 (1h 23m 4s):

Right? That's, yeah. All right, Aris, thank you so much. The book again is the Blind Storyteller, how we Reason about human Nature, and that was quite enlightening.

2 (1h 23m 16s):

Pleasure talking to you, Michael. Thank you.

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2 (1h 20m 37s):

Yeah. They were called a prophet. Yes.

1 (1h 20m 39s):

Yeah, we're called a prophet. Right? Yeah. Very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen this recently with the kind of re a reconfiguring autism in the autism spectrum as more of cognitive diversity is the term that's being used now. So it's not a disease, it's not a problem. It's, in fact, it's a interesting different way of thinking. Somebody like a temple Brandon, or maybe even Elon Musk, you know, famously went on Saturday Night Live and, you know, I'm the first autistic person to host Saturday Night Live that we know of. Right. The implication being there's, you know, maybe a lot of creative people are on the spectrum, and that's kind of a way of rethinking about those issues.

2 (1h 21m 20s):

Yeah, absolutely.

1 (1h 21m 22s):

Yeah. Iris, give us kind of the, the take home 30 picture from 30,000 feet of what your research and your book is and, and, and going forward, how we might change the way we think about human nature to have a more just and moral society.

2 (1h 21m 45s):

I, I think that the best advice is start by knowing ourselves, knowing, you know, so hopefully by recognizing this, you know, forces that make us think in this irrational fashion, you know, that can do some good. So the examples of psychiatric disorders is one really painful case where, where this biases really lead US history. So hopefully this, what I was trying to basically do it a little bit of psychotherapy in this book, right? See all these crazy things that the crazy thought patterns and, and hopefully recognize them, will help recognizing them, will help stop them and, and prevent us from continuing on this path.

1 (1h 22m 31s):

Interesting. To come back a century from now or 500 years from now, like we look back on the middle ages or the early modern period before the enlightenment and the scientific revolution of how people conceived of human nature then, or witches or demons or, you know, possession or whatever they, they thought. And we look at that and go, boy, that's ridiculous. We have a really scientific theory of human nature now maybe 500 years from now they look back on us and go, boy, they were so primitive they didn't understand X or whatever.

2 (1h 23m 0s):

Well we already see that,

1 (1h 23m 4s):

Right? That's, yeah. All right, Aris, thank you so much. The book again is the Blind Storyteller, how we Reason about human Nature, and that was quite enlightening.

2 (1h 23m 16s):

Pleasure talking to you, Michael. Thank you.