Language Learning & The Inverted Hockey Stick
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Sprachenlernen und der umgekehrte Hockeyschläger
El aprendizaje de idiomas y el palo de hockey invertido
Apprentissage des langues et bâton de hockey inversé
L'apprendimento delle lingue e il bastone dell'hockey rovesciato
言語学習と逆ホッケースティック
언어 학습 및 거꾸로 된 하키 스틱
Nauka języków i odwrócony kij hokejowy
Aprendizagem de línguas e o "Hockey Stick" invertido
Învățarea limbilor străine & The Inverted Hockey Stick
Изучение языка и перевернутая хоккейная клюшка
Dil Öğrenimi ve Ters Hokey Sopası
语言学习和倒曲棍球棒
語言學習和倒曲棍球棒
Getting from B1 one to B2 is the hardest, longest part of
passer|||||||||||
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Pasar de B1 uno a B2 es la parte más larga y difícil de
B1からB2への移行は、最も難しく、長い道のりである。
Добраться от B1 до B2 — самая сложная и длинная часть пути.
my language learning journey.
Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here and today I want to talk about the inverted
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Hola, Steve Kaufmann aquí y hoy quiero hablar sobre el invertido
hockey stick and language learning.
曲棍球||||
hockey|bâton|||
|Palo, varilla|||
hockey||||
palo de hockey y aprendizaje de idiomas.
So before we get into it, remember if you enjoy these videos, please subscribe,
Entonces, antes de entrar en materia, recuerde que si disfruta de estos videos, suscríbase,
本題に入る前に、もしこれらのビデオを楽しんでいただけたら、購読をお願いします、
click on the bell for notifications.
And if you follow me on a podcast service, please leave a comment.
Y si me sigues en un servicio de podcast, deja un comentario.
I do appreciate it.
Lo aprecio.
So what is the inverted hockey stick and why am I talking about it?
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|그게 뭐야||||||||||||
Entonces, ¿qué es el palo de hockey invertido y por qué estoy hablando de él?
では、逆ホッケースティックとは何なのか？
Well, let me briefly introduce this idea.
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さて、このアイデアを簡単に紹介しよう。
It's, it's an image that I have used before.
그것은|||그것은 이미지(1)|||||
以前にも使ったことがあるイメージなんだ。
And the idea is that if you know what a hockey stick looks like, normally
そして、ホッケースティックがどのようなものかを知っていれば、普通はこう考える。
you've got a long shaft and a blade.
|||||||lame
||||handle|||
||||haste|||uma lâmina
||||손잡이|||날
||||杆|||刀片
|||||||a blade
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tienes un eje largo y una cuchilla.
あなたは長いシャフトとブレードを持っている。
If you inverted or turn it upside down, you've not got this
||flip||rotate|the object|down|downward position||||
Si lo invertiste o lo pusiste al revés, no tienes esto
反転させたり、逆さまにしたりすると、こうはならない。
blade that goes up like this.
cuchilla que sube así.
And then a long shaft.
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|alors|||mât
||||cylinder or pole
Y luego un eje largo.
And when we learn a language, we begin by making, although it's very steep
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Y cuando aprendemos un idioma, empezamos por hacer, aunque es muy empinado
そして言語を学ぶとき、私たちはまず、とても険しいけれども、「作る」ことから始める。
and we're struggling very hard, but we actually do make fairly rapid progress.
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그리고||||||||||||
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y estamos luchando muy duro, pero en realidad hacemos un progreso bastante rápido.
そして懸命に奮闘しているが、実際にはかなり急速な進歩を遂げている。
We learned some words, we understand some words, we can use some words we think wow.
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Aprendimos algunas palabras, entendemos algunas palabras, podemos usar algunas palabras que pensamos wow.
いくつかの単語を覚え、いくつかの単語を理解し、いくつかの単語を使えるようになった。
And then pretty soon though, we are no longer in this steep
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Y luego, muy pronto, ya no estamos en este empinado
そしてすぐに、この険しい道から外れてしまう。
climb where we're learning a lot or think we're learning a lot.
escalar donde estamos aprendiendo mucho o pensamos que estamos aprendiendo mucho.
多くのことを学んでいる、あるいは多くを学んでいると思っている。
We now discover that it's a very long road before we achieve, you
Ahora descubrimos que es un camino muy largo antes de lograr, usted
私たちは今、達成するまでには非常に長い道のりがあることを知った。
know, what we want to achieve, which is fluency, understanding movies,
saber, lo que queremos lograr, que es fluidez, comprensión de películas,
私たちが達成したいこと、それは流暢さであり、映画を理解することだ、
being able to converse with people.
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人と会話ができる。
It's an awfully long road and they, the progress is, is, is actually quite slow.
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Es un camino terriblemente largo y el progreso es bastante lento.
非常に長い道のりだし、進歩もかなり遅い。
And that's one of the dilemmas in language learning is, is to keep
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そして、言語学習におけるジレンマのひとつは、それを維持することである。
yourself motivated during that long, slow period that shaft of the hockey stick.
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usted mismo motivado durante ese período largo y lento ese eje del palo de hockey.
ホッケー・スティックの軸となる長く緩慢な期間に、自分自身のモチベーションを高める。
So why do I bring this up now?
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Entonces, ¿por qué menciono esto ahora?
では、なぜ今この話を持ち出したのか？
Because the other day, my son, uh, because normally we don't go
Porque el otro día, hijo mío, eh, porque normalmente no vamos
というのも、先日、息子が......普段は行かないんだけどね。
to the office so much anymore.
a la oficina mucho más.
もうオフィスにはあまり行かない。
And so the mail comes to my home, but some mail does go to the office and
Entonces, el correo llega a mi casa, pero parte del correo va a la oficina y
郵便物は自宅に届くが、事務所に届くものもある。
he brings home this, uh, very neatly wrapped package from the US from an
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él trae a casa este, eh, paquete muy bien envuelto de los EE. UU. de un
彼は、アメリカからとてもきれいに包装された小包を持ち帰った。
R Rogers, uh, in Lansing, Michigan.
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|Rogers|||Lansing|Michigan
||||Lansing|Michigan
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|R||||Michigan
ミシガン州ランシングのR・ロジャースだ。
And there's actually a pretty steep postal charge there, $22.
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Y en realidad hay un cargo postal bastante alto allí, $22.
しかも、そこには22ドルというかなり高額な郵便料金がかかる。
And it's addressed to me at my office.
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Y está dirigido a mí en mi oficina.
宛先は私のオフィスだ。
And I'm saying, gee, what is this?
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これは何なんだ？
I don't know an R Rogers and it's very neatly wrapped.
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No conozco un R Rogers y está muy bien envuelto.
R・ロジャースは知らないし、とてもきれいに包装されている。
And so then, uh, inside it is this neat package here.
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Y entonces, eh, dentro está este pulcro paquete aquí.
そして、その中にこのきちんとしたパッケージが入っている。
Uh, and then as I open it and you hear a noise, it's got a very neat
|||||||||entends||bruit|||||propre
Uh, y luego, cuando lo abro y escuchas un ruido, tiene un aspecto muy limpio.
あ、それから、開けて音がしたら、とてもきれいな音がするんだ。
use of a Home Depot, a box, and lo and behold, I find a hockey stick.
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Uso un Home Depot, una caja y he aquí que encuentro un palo de hockey.
ホームセンターで箱とホッケースティックを見つけた。
Okay.
Now this hockey stick is for short people because actually in real life, the shaft
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このホッケースティックは背の低い人のためのものだ。
is much, much, much longer as the, a path to learning languages as longer.
es mucho, mucho, mucho más largo que el, un camino para aprender idiomas como más largo.
言語学習への道のりは、もっともっと長い。
But, and it has, uh, a letter here.
でも、ここに手紙がある。
Hi, Steve, a fan of LingQ and your YouTube channel here.
こんにちは、スティーブ。LingQとあなたのYouTubeチャンネルのファンです。
I thought you could use a model inverted hockey stick with a few pointers
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|pensais|||utiliser|||||||||indications
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Pensé que podrías usar un modelo de palo de hockey invertido con algunos consejos
逆ホッケースティックの模型を使えば、いくつかのポイントを押さえることができると思ったんだが......。
maybe as language level indicators to conveniently demonstrate...
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tal vez como indicadores de nivel de idioma para demostrar convenientemente...
もしかしたら、言語レベルの指標として便利に使えるかもしれない...
and these are...
そしてこれらは...
Are these different colored pointers?
|||색깔이 다른|
|||色の|
¿Son estos punteros de diferentes colores?
これは色違いのポインターですか？
This is unbelievable.
||incroyable
||믿을 수 없는
All the best in conveying, conveying and appreciation for language learning to your
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Todo lo mejor en transmitir, transmitir y apreciar el aprendizaje de idiomas a su
語学学習の素晴らしさを伝え、伝え、感謝する。
channel subscribers and LingQ members, Russ a fan from Lansing, Michigan.
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suscriptores del canal y miembros de LingQ, Russ un fan de Lansing, Michigan.
チャンネル登録者とLingQ会員のミシガン州ランシングのファン、ラス。
Okay.
Russ, thank you very, very much.
Russ, muchas gracias.
And you know, aside from the fact that it illustrates the hockey stick,
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Y ya sabes, aparte del hecho de que ilustra el palo de hockey,
anyone has ever considered learning languages the community of language
alguien se ha planteado alguna vez aprender idiomas la comunidad de idiomas
learners is so mutually supportive.
|||mutuellement|soutien
|||상호|서로 지지하는
|||お互いに|
los alumnos se apoyan mutuamente.
I mean, Russ has, is extremely supportive and, and, um, you know,
Quiero decir, Russ ha sido un gran apoyo y, y, um, ya sabes,
helpful and, and encouraging and stuff.
útil y, y alentador y esas cosas.
But so many language their nerves are when I go to the polyglot
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Pero tanto lenguaje son sus nervios cuando voy al políglota
しかし、私がポリグロットに行くとき、彼らの神経は非常に多くの言語である。
gatherings, everybody is so supportive.
||||soutenant
meetings||||
모임에서는||||
reuniones||||
reuniones, todo el mundo es tan solidario.
みんな協力的なんだ。
No one criticizes anyone's level in the language and
||critique|personne|||||
|||anyone's|||||
||批判する||||||
Nadie critica el nivel de nadie en el idioma y
誰もそのレベルを批判しない。
everybody wants to help everyone.
みんながみんなを助けたいと思っている。
There's this great helpfulness in this community of language learners.
|||entraide||||||
|||도움이 되는 것||||||
|||助け合い||||||
|||gran ayuda||||||
Hay una gran ayuda en esta comunidad de estudiantes de idiomas.
So let's have a look at what we have here.
Así que echemos un vistazo a lo que tenemos aquí.
では、ここにあるものを見てみよう。
So this is, uh, the inverted hockey stick.
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これが逆ホッケースティックだ。
And, uh, so let's say that we have different colors.
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So when you are really doing well, you know, you are basically green,
だから、本当にうまくいっているときは、基本的に緑色なんだ、
you know, the light is green.
I think that's what probably what Russ had in mind and maybe that's
C1, which is for all intents and purposes, you're flying in the language.
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C1、それはどこから見ても、あなたは言語で飛んでいる。
B2, which I consider to be my goal, in other words, and for those of
B2、つまり私の目標である。
you who aren't familiar with the European framework, I mean, B2
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means that you're comfortable.
ということは、居心地がいいということだ。
You make a lot of mistakes.
C1 means you're really very good.
You make few or very few mistakes, C1.
C2 is like you're as fluent as a native basically.
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So, so then, well, let's get, make that, see one yellow is when I
approach a traffic light, if it's yellow, I'll tend to stop, which
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信号が黄色だと、つい止まってしまう。
is what you're supposed to do.
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それがあなたのやるべきことだ
A lot of people just go flying through it.
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多くの人は、ただ飛んでいくだけだ。
They speed up when they see a yellow light.
So let's say that when you're in the B area, uh, B1 B2, you shouldn't,
||||||||||||||ne devriez pas
even though you're encountering difficulties, you should speed up.
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même|bien||rencontrer|||||
|||facing challenges|||||
Like the guys that run yellow lights the same.
Just go for it.
ただ頑張るんだ。
Run that yellow light.
Now, when you're here, now it, you know, as I'm doing this, I
さて、あなたがここにいるとき、私はこうしている。
was thinking to myself, maybe I should have made the shaft okay?
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シャフトをオーケーにするべきだったかな？
Maybe I should've put green colors there.
||should have||||
||해야 했어||||
グリーンカラーを入れるべきだったかもしれない。
Uh, but I've started this way so I'm gonna, I'm going to stay with it.
So here with Russell's hockey stick, well, you start at the beginning of the
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shaft it's as if your can't move at first because you, the language makes no sense.
It's just noise.
||du bruit
Uh, but very quickly you start to gain a bit of a sense of
ああ、でも、すぐに、あなたは少し感覚をつかみ始めるよ
the language, but it's still a struggle, but it's a steep struggle.
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しかし、それでも苦労は絶えない。
And because it's as if you're, if you're climbing a cliff and you're
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kind of getting a toehold and you're, you're actually moving quite a
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distance up, even though it's hard work, it's hard work on your legs.
거리||||||||||||
I don't know why I would go for...
maybe I should change it, maybe I should.
Maybe I should uh, but, but I don't want you to stop.
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たぶん、僕は......でも、でも、君にやめてほしくないんだ。
Uh, when you're at C1.
Okay?
So let's say that it's red because there are barriers, but you're going
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だから、障壁があるから赤だとしよう。
to break through the barriers and you're going to break through the
barriers as you climb that steep initial period, uh, in learning a language.
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Barrieren, wenn man die steile Anfangsphase des Sprachenlernens überwindet.
But then as you hit the shaft of the hockey stick, now you're in that middle
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period, B1 B1 - B2, I guess this would be, but I should move this up here
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because I think B2 and C1 is so close that I can't really tell the difference.
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And C2 is almost an unattainable.
|||||inaccessible
|||||inaccessible
|||||unattainable
|||||달성 불가능한
|||||无法达到的
|||||inalcanzable
そして、C2はほとんど達成不可能だ。
You know, if you get that, that's fine.
You really have to focus on that language in great depth to
achieve that B1 or at least B2 C1 are both good goals to achieve.
Maybe that's where, you know, you run, you run the...
||où|||||||
trouble is the traffic light doesn't turn green, it turns red.
And so if you run, if you try to run that yellow light and it turns red and
there's a cop there you're in trouble.
||flic||||
そこに警官がいたら大変だ。
So that's not very realistic.
So maybe I should have done it the other way.
|||||fait||||
だから、私は別の方法を取るべきだったのかもしれない。
Anyway, doesn't matter.
The principle is when you start in the language, it's all noise.
|||||||||||bruit
原則は、言語を始めると、それはすべてノイズになるということだ。
You work very hard.
I listen many, many times in this.
Uh, content, then I move on to this shaft of the hockey stick,
||||||||manche||||
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slow, slow, slow progress.
Actually, I should move this up here because I think that getting from getting
from a B1 to B2 is the hardest, longest part of my language learning journey.
Once I'm at B2 where I can understand stuff, I can understand movies
une fois|je suis|||||||||||
I don't care if I make mistakes.
ミスがあっても気にしない。
I don't care if there's words that I don't know, because there's so many
things I can do in the language.
その言語で私ができること。
So I will, at some point, maybe I've moved to C1.
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Maybe I'd have to take a test to prove that I'm at C1, but either
||||||||||||||soit
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at B2 or C1, I'm comfortable.
And as I said, this other C2 is just out of the picture,
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except for the real diehards.
||||inconditionnels
||||diehards
||||진정한 열혈팬
||||本物の熱心なファン
||||enthusiastic supporters
The difficulty is here when we get to the top of the steep
climb high-frequency words were encountering over and over again.
|||||rencontrer||||
|||||encountering||||
クライムハイ・フリークエンシー・ワードは何度も何度も遭遇した。
We're acquiring these words.
We think we're making progress and we turn the corner.
And we're in this area here where it seems like we can't remember anything.
Uh, we're not very satisfied with our improvement anymore.
ええと、私たちはもう自分たちの改善にあまり満足していないんだ。
And that's where you gotta put your foot on the gas pedal, run that yellow
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light and take yourself up to B2.
And once you had B2, you can progress as much as you want.
そして、一度B2を手にすれば、いくらでも上達することができる。
It depends on how much opportunity you have to speak the language,
その言語を話す機会がどれだけあるかにもよる、
if you live in the country, a whole bunch of things like that.
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田舎に住んでいれば、そういうことは山ほどある。
So thank you very much, Russ, from Lansing, Michigan, uh, I don't know
how you intended your, uh, inverted hockey stick to be used, but I very
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||aviez l'intention|||||||||||
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あなたが意図した逆ホッケースティックは、どのように使われたのですか？
much appreciate you sending this to me.
|||l'envoi|||
送ってくれてありがとう。
And so I wanted to share it with my viewers and also to thank you.
|||voulais||partager||||spectateurs|||||
And I will be sending Russ a note and I will also leave you with, uh,
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previous videos that I've done on this issue of the hockey stick, the inverted
hockey stick and how we get through the doldrums, that long period, when
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ホッケースティックと、その長い低迷期をどう乗り切るか。
we think we're not making any progress.
我々は何も進歩していないと思う。
Thank you for listening.
Bye for now.
