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01.Speaking, 67.Bitcoin Part 2

67.Bitcoin Part 2

Todd: So, Anthony we're talking about bitcoin. Now you've invested in bitcoin before?

Anthony: Yeah, yeah, a bit.

Todd: Do you still invest a lot now?

Anthony: I haven't recently.

Todd: Okay, so why did you stop?

Anthony: I stopped because I was getting a little anxious about seeing my portfolio swing up and down by 5, 6, 7 thousand dollars in a day. I kind of decided that I would take out the money that I invested in it and just let my profits ride, basically.

Todd: Right, so basically originally then, you were using bitcoin for speculative purposes. Not to actually buy things. You weren't using it as a means to actually make transactions.

Anthony: That is correct. I've only bought one thing with bitcoin, and that was, it's called a hardware wallet, which is basically, it looks like a USB stick, but it's a way to secure your funds.

Todd: Do you think that in the future we will have people using bitcoins more, like it's going to become a viable alternative to actually, for commerce to pay for things?

Anthony: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't think bitcoin will be what we all use, but it's definitely, in my opinion, it's definitely the archetype for what is coming.

Todd: It's the pioneer.

Anthony: Yes, the pioneering technology. There's going to be something that is similar to bitcoin that we use as a digital payment system.

Todd: Yeah, so a lot of people are freaked out about bitcoin. What are some reasons people are skeptical against it?

Anthony: That's a good question. One question that I've been asked before is, who controls it? Everyone always wants to know who's in charge. Right. Who's the CEO? Right? Because we're so conditioned to this kind of system, but that is the thing. It's kind of scary for some people, but there is no control over it. It's a program at the end of the day. And there's no governing body. There's no government organization that really has a say. I mean governments, specific governments, will try to regulate the markets to a certain extent. But at the end of the day, the power is in the hands of the people that use it, really. And as long as people use it there will be some kind of value to it. Just as long as we use paper money, there's value to it. As long as it's exchanged, right?

Todd: Right. And some people have made some good points. For example, nobody foresaw the use of ecommerce or smart phones, or social media. But these things adopted and ramped up quickly. So, do you think this could happen with these crypto technologies?

Anthony: I think-

Todd: Is that the right way to say it? Crypto technologies.

Anthony: Cryptocurrencies.

Todd: Cryptocurrencies.

Anthony: Or block chain technologies.

Todd: Block chain technology, okay.

Anthony: I think it's very rapid right now. It's kind of becoming a household word. Whereas, when I first got into it, if I talked to someone about bitcoin, they would look at me like I was crazy. They would look at me like I had a hole in my face or something. But now people know. Even older people who aren't really so in touch with technology, know what it is or have at least heard about it. butI I think the biggest hurdle to mass adoptions is as it stands now, it takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of know-how in order to safely, because the reason why I say safely, is because if you're dealing with bitcoin, you're in charge of securing your funds. So, if someone hacks into your funds, or something, then it's your fault. You don't have anyone to blame. Where as if you have your money in a bank-

Todd: You can't call customer service.

Anthony: Exactly. You can't call customer service, so there's a big hurdle as far as the knowledge you need to safely and effectively maneuver in that space. So I think until some second party or third party comes about and makes it more user-friendly, I don't really think it's going to be ready to really take over until that happens., because either more people need to be educated and know how to use it and how to purchase it and how to store it, etc. Or there needs to be some huge company that going to say, "Look, we'll manage it for you. You just need this app, or something." I don't know, something like that.

Todd: Yeah, it's going to be interesting in the crossover. They always say be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. If bitcoin or some crypto-

Anthony: Currency

Todd: Currency becomes the primary source of transactions, I think a lot of the ills and the dodgy stuff we have with banks, will seep into it. It'll be interesting if they could keep it out. If you know what I mean. But one thing that's interesting about the currencies is that, I think a lot of old people will go for it. I think a lot of old people usually are hesitant about technology and change, but the thing, they have a lot of money that they're sitting on, usually, older people., and they also don't trust the government. They've been around a long time and so I think these cryptocurrencies are going to be very attractive to a lot of tech un-savvy people. What do you think about that?

Anthony: I think you have a point. I think that probably more so than young people have money to invest, but I think that's, like I said before, I've spent so many hours reading about these kinds of technologies and just really obsessing over it, and I still feel like there's so much I don't know. So.

Todd: Well, I guess we all got to learn.

Anthony: Yeah. Alright.

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Todd: So, Anthony we're talking about bitcoin. ||Anthony|||| ||||||ビットコイン Now you've invested in bitcoin before?

Anthony: Yeah, yeah, a bit.

Todd: Do you still invest a lot now?

Anthony: I haven't recently. Anthony|||

Todd: Okay, so why did you stop?

Anthony: I stopped because I was getting a little anxious about seeing my portfolio swing up and down by 5, 6, 7 thousand dollars in a day. |||||||||不安な||||ポートフォリオ|||||||||| I kind of decided that I would take out the money that I invested in it and just let my profits ride, basically. |||||||||||||||||||||지내다| 나는 내가 투자한 돈을 빼고 그저 내 수익을 기다리기로 결심했다.

Todd: Right, so basically originally then, you were using bitcoin for speculative purposes. |||||||||||speculative| |||||||||||投機的な| Todd: 맞아, 그러니까 원래 너는 비트코인을 투기 목적으로 사용하고 있었던 거야. Not to actually buy things. 실제로 물건을 사기 위한 것은 아니었지. You weren't using it as a means to actually make transactions.

Anthony: That is correct. I've only bought one thing with bitcoin, and that was, it's called a hardware wallet, which is basically, it looks like a USB stick, but it's a way to secure your funds. ||||||||||||||||||||||USB|||||||||الأموال 저는 비트코인으로 단 한 가지 물건만 구매했는데, 그것은 하드웨어 지갑이라고 불립니다. 기본적으로 USB 스틱처럼 생겼지만, 자금을 안전하게 보호하는 방법입니다.

Todd: Do you think that in the future we will have people using bitcoins more, like it's going to become a viable alternative to actually, for commerce to pay for things? |||||||||||||||||||||قابلة||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||viable|||||commerce|||| Todd: 당신은 미래에 사람들이 비트코인을 더 많이 사용할 것이라고 생각하나요? 비트코인이 실제로 상업에서 물건을 사는 유효한 대안이 될 것인지요?

Anthony: Yeah, that's a good question. Anthony: 네, 좋은 질문입니다. I don't think bitcoin will be what we all use, but it's definitely, in my opinion, it's definitely the archetype for what is coming. |||||||||||||||||||archetype|||| 나는 비트코인이 우리가 모두 사용하는 것이 될 것이라고 생각하지 않지만, 내 의견으로는 분명히 다가오는 것의 전형이라고 생각합니다.

Todd: It's the pioneer. 톳: 선구자입니다.

Anthony: Yes, the pioneering technology. 앤서니: 네, 개척 기술입니다. There's going to be something that is similar to bitcoin that we use as a digital payment system. 우리가 디지털 결제 시스템으로 사용할 비트코인과 유사한 것이 있을 것입니다.

Todd: Yeah, so a lot of people are freaked out about bitcoin. ||||||||freaked||| 토드: 네, 그래서 많은 사람들이 비트코인 때문에 겁먹고 있습니다. What are some reasons people are skeptical against it? 사람들이 비트코인에 대해 회의적인 이유는 무엇인가요?

Anthony: That's a good question. One question that I've been asked before is, who controls it? Everyone always wants to know who's in charge. Right. Who's the CEO? Right? Because we're so conditioned to this kind of system, but that is the thing. 우리는 이런 시스템에 너무 익숙해져 있기 때문이지만, 그것이 핵심입니다. It's kind of scary for some people, but there is no control over it. 어떤 사람들에게는 조금 무서울 수 있지만, 그것에 대한 제어는 없습니다. It's a program at the end of the day. 결국 그것은 하나의 프로그램입니다. And there's no governing body. 그리고 관리 기관이 없습니다. There's no government organization that really has a say. 실제로 의견을 낼 수 있는 정부 조직이 없습니다. I mean governments, specific governments, will try to regulate the markets to a certain extent. 내 말은, 특정 정부들은 시장을 어느 정도 규제하려고 할 것입니다. But at the end of the day, the power is in the hands of the people that use it, really. 하지만 결국의 하루가 끝나면, 그 힘은 그것을 사용하는 사람들의 손에 있다, 정말로. And as long as people use it there will be some kind of value to it. 사람들이 그것을 사용하는 한, 그것에는 어떤 가치가 있을 것이다. Just as long as we use paper money, there's value to it. 우리가 종이 돈을 사용하는 한, 그것에는 가치가 있다. As long as it's exchanged, right? 교환이 되기만 하면 되죠?

Todd: Right. 토드: 맞아요. And some people have made some good points. 그리고 어떤 사람들은 좋은 의견을 제시하곤 했습니다. For example, nobody foresaw the use of ecommerce or smart phones, or social media. 예를 들어, 아무도 전자상거래나 스마트폰, 소셜 미디어의 사용을 예측하지 못했습니다. But these things adopted and ramped up quickly. 하지만 이러한 것들은 빠르게 채택되고 확산되었습니다. So, do you think this could happen with these crypto technologies? 그래서 이러한 암호화 기술이 그럴 수 있다고 생각하십니까?

Anthony: I think-

Todd: Is that the right way to say it? Todd: 그렇게 말하는 게 맞아요? Crypto technologies. 암호화 기술.

Anthony: Cryptocurrencies. Anthony: 암호화폐.

Todd: Cryptocurrencies.

Anthony: Or block chain technologies.

Todd: Block chain technology, okay.

Anthony: I think it's very rapid right now. It's kind of becoming a household word. 그것은 일종의 가정용 단어가 되어가고 있습니다. Whereas, when I first got into it, if I talked to someone about bitcoin, they would look at me like I was crazy. 내가 처음 이 분야에 들어갔을 때, 비트코인에 대해 이야기하면 사람들은 나를 미친 사람처럼 쳐다봤습니다. They would look at me like I had a hole in my face or something. 그들은 마치 내 얼굴에 구멍이 나 있는 것처럼 나를 쳐다봤습니다. But now people know. Even older people who aren't really so in touch with technology, know what it is or have at least heard about it. butI I think the biggest hurdle to mass adoptions is as it stands now, it takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of know-how in order to safely, because the reason why I say safely, is because if you're dealing with bitcoin, you're in charge of securing your funds. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||당신이|||||| لكن|||||عائق||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||التعامل|||||||تأمين||الأموال but I|||||hurdle||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 하지만 제가 생각하기에 대규모 채택에 가장 큰 장애물은 현재와 같이 많은 지식과 노하우가 필요하다는 점입니다. 안전하게 사용하기 위해서인데, 제가 '안전하게'라고 말하는 이유는 비트코인을 다룬다면 자금 보호를 책임져야 하기 때문입니다. So, if someone hacks into your funds, or something, then it's your fault. 그래서 누군가가 당신의 자금을 해킹한다면, 그건 당신의 잘못입니다. You don't have anyone to blame. 당신은 비난할 사람도 없습니다. Where as if you have your money in a bank-

Todd: You can't call customer service.

Anthony: Exactly. You can't call customer service, so there's a big hurdle as far as the knowledge you need to safely and effectively maneuver in that space. |||||||||||||||||||||maneuver||| |||||||||||||||||||||조작하다||| 고객 서비스에 전화를 걸 수 없기 때문에 안전하고 효과적으로 그 공간을 다루기 위해 필요한 지식을 얻는 데 큰 장애물이 있습니다. So I think until some second party or third party comes about and makes it more user-friendly, I don't really think it's going to be ready to really take over until that happens., because either more people need to be educated and know how to use it and how to purchase it and how to store it, etc. 그래서 저는 어떤 제3의 당사자가 등장하여 사용자 친화적으로 만들기 전에는 그게 정말로 자리 잡을 준비가 되었다고 생각하지 않습니다. 왜냐하면 더 많은 사람들이 교육을 받아야 하고 그것을 사용하고 구매하고 저장하는 방법을 알아야 하니까요. Or there needs to be some huge company that going to say, "Look, we'll manage it for you. 또는 "우리가 당신을 위해 관리해 드리겠습니다."라고 말할 거대 기업이 필요합니다. You just need this app, or something." I don't know, something like that.

Todd: Yeah, it's going to be interesting in the crossover. |||||||||crossover 토드: 응, 크로스오버에서 흥미로울 거야. They always say be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. 그들은 항상 원하는 것을 조심하라고 말하지, 그렇게 되면 정말로 얻을 수도 있어. If bitcoin or some crypto- 비트코인이나 어떤 암호화폐-

Anthony: Currency

Todd: Currency becomes the primary source of transactions, I think a lot of the ills and the dodgy stuff we have with banks, will seep into it. ||||||||||||||ills|||questionable||||||||| 토드: 통화는 거래의 주요 원천이 되며, 은행과 관련된 많은 문제와 수상한 것들이 여기에 스며들 것이라고 생각합니다. It'll be interesting if they could keep it out. 그것을 제외할 수 있다면 흥미로울 것입니다. If you know what I mean. 내가 무슨 뜻인지 알겠죠. But one thing that's interesting about the currencies is that, I think a lot of old people will go for it. 하지만 통화에 관한 한 흥미로운 점은 많은 노인들이 이를 받아들일 것이라고 생각합니다. I think a lot of old people usually are hesitant about technology and change, but the thing, they have a lot of money that they're sitting on, usually, older people., and they also don't trust the government. 많은 노인들이 일반적으로 기술이나 변화에 대해 주저하는 경향이 있지만, 그들이 대체로 가지고 있는 돈이 많고, 또한 정부를 신뢰하지 않기 때문입니다. They've been around a long time and so I think these cryptocurrencies are going to be very attractive to a lot of tech un-savvy people. 이들은 오랫동안 존재해 왔기 때문에 이러한 암호화폐는 기술에 익숙하지 않은 많은 사람들에게 매우 매력적일 것이라고 생각합니다. What do you think about that?

Anthony: I think you have a point. I think that probably more so than young people have money to invest, but I think that's, like I said before, I've spent so many hours reading about these kinds of technologies and just really obsessing over it, and I still feel like there's so much I don't know. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||obsessing||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||집착하거든||||||||||||| 나는 아마도 젊은이들보다 투자할 돈이 더 많다고 생각하지만, 앞서 말했듯이, 나는 이러한 기술들에 대해 정말 많이 읽고 집착해왔고, 여전히 내가 모르는 것이 너무 많다고 느낍니다. So. 그래서.

Todd: Well, I guess we all got to learn. |||생각해|||||배워야 토드: 음, 우리 모두 배워야 한다고 생각해.

Anthony: Yeah. Alright. 좋아

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