【 哲學 係 咁 傾 】ep. 11 密碼 貨幣 (6)
【哲学系咁倾】ep. 11 密码货币(6)
[Philosophy is like this] ep. 11 Password Currency (6)
之前 所有 改正 的 歷史記錄
before|all|corrections|possessive particle|historical records
All historical records of corrections made previously
全部 都 會 留在 這裏
all|also|will|stay in|here
Will all be kept here
這是 令到 整件事 高度 透明 之外
this is|making|the whole matter|highly|transparent|beyond
This makes the whole matter highly transparent as well
亦 很 去 中心化 很 沒有 大台
also|very|go|centralized|very|no|big platform
It is also very decentralized and lacks a major platform.
它 決定 上 決策 上
it|decision|on|decision-making|on
It decides on decision-making.
不是 某 一些 個別 的 個體 做 決定
not|certain|some|individual|possessive particle|entities|make|decisions
It is not certain individual entities making decisions.
而 這 就是 技術性 容許 我們 發生 的 事
and|this|is|technical|allowed|us|happening|possessive particle|thing
And this is what the technology allows us to happen.
之前 就算 可能 人人 都 想 做
before|even if|possibly|everyone|all|wants|to do
Previously, even if everyone might want to do it.
但 不 容易 的
but|not|easy|particle indicating possession or modification
But it's not easy.
剛才 的 貝殼 例子 就是
just now|possessive particle|shell|example|is exactly
The example of the shell just now is.
可能 五個 人 可以
possibly|five|people|can
Maybe five people can.
如果 一個 700 萬人 的 社會
if|a|million people|possessive particle|society
If a society of 7 million people
甚至 只是 幾千 或 幾百 可能 已經 不行 了
even|just|a few thousand|or|a few hundred|might|already|not work|past tense marker
even just a few thousand or a few hundred might not be feasible anymore
你 怎樣 可以 很 去 中心化 去 做 決定 呢
you|how|can|very|go|centralized|to|make|decision|question particle
how can you decentralize decision-making?
但是 區塊 鏈 技術 就 令到 這件 事 可能
but|block|chain|technology|then|make|this|thing|possible
But blockchain technology makes this possible.
我 猜 是 這樣
I|guess|am|like this
I guess it's like this.
但是 我 有 一個 問題 就是
but|I|have|one|question|that is
But I have a question.
剛才 鹽 叔 有 說到
just now|salt|uncle|has|mentioned
Just now, Uncle Yim mentioned.
可能 有些 觀眾 未必 知道
possibly|some|audience|not necessarily|know
Some audience members might not know.
就是 現在 有 一些 技術
that is|now|has|some|technology
There are some technologies right now.
是 你 持有 某 一些 貨幣 或者 NFT
is|you|hold|some|certain|currency|or|NFT
You hold certain currencies or NFTs.
今天 不 討論
today|not|discuss
We are not discussing that today.
你 是 有權 去 投票 的
you|are|have the right|to|vote|particle indicating completed action
You have the right to vote.
而 投票 可能 就 因應 你 持有 的 那些 貨幣量
and|voting|may|just|depending on|you|hold|possessive particle|those|amount of currency
And the voting may depend on the amount of currency you hold.
有 多少 百分比 去 決定
have|how much|percentage|to|decide
What percentage will be used to decide?
但是 有 一個 問題 就是
but|has|one|question|that is
But there is a problem.
因為 現在 很多 貨幣
because|now|many|currencies
Because there are many currencies now.
我們 在 說 加密 貨幣
we|are|talking|cryptocurrency|currency
We are talking about cryptocurrency.
所謂 沒有 大台 都 好
so-called|without|big stage|also|good
So-called, it doesn't matter if there is no big platform.
其實 我 怎樣 去 持有 它
actually|I|how|to|possess|it
Actually, how I hold it,
都 是 用 法定 貨幣 的 金錢 去 換回來
all|are|using|legal|currency|possessive particle|money|to|exchange back
is still using fiat currency to exchange for it.
那 這樣 不是 也 會 有 一些 問題 衍生
then|like this|not|also|will|have|some|problems|arise
Then, wouldn't this also lead to some problems?
而 反而 會 再有 大台 之下
and|on the contrary|will|have again|big stage|under
And instead, there will be more under a big platform.
那個 問題 是 什麼 呢
that|question|is|what|particle
What is that problem?
如果 我 是 很 有 財力 的
if|I|am|very|have|wealthy|(particle indicating possession)
If I am very wealthy,
我 有 幾百億 的 美金 身家
I|have|several hundred billion|possessive particle|US dollars|net worth
I have several billion dollars in assets.
我 把 它 兌換 成 某 一種 幣
I|particle indicating disposal|it|exchange|into|a certain|one kind of|currency
I exchange it for a certain type of currency.
同時 我 又 因應 我 擁有 的 持有 量 去 投票
at the same time|I|again|according to|I|own|possessive particle|holding|quantity|to|vote
At the same time, I vote according to the amount I hold.
那 我 豈不是 可以 控制 整個 機制 怎樣 去 運作
then|I|shouldn't|can|control|entire|mechanism|how|to|operate
Then, can't I control how the entire mechanism operates?
你 想一想
you|think about it
Think about it.
如果 是 在 一些 有 中心 有大台 的 機制 之下
if|is|in|some|have|center|have large platform|possessive particle|mechanism|under
If it is under a mechanism with a central authority.
比如說 美金
for example|US dollar
For example, the US dollar.
或者 一些 密碼 貨幣 都 是 有 大台 的
Or some cryptocurrencies that also have a central authority.
這樣的話 其實 它 是 可以 操控 的
in that case|actually|it|is|can|controlled|particle indicating past action
In that case, it can actually be controlled.
他 就 覺得 你 這些 是 惡意 的 收購
he|then|thinks|you|these|are|malicious|possessive particle|acquisition
He thinks that these are malicious acquisitions.
惡意 地 去 持有
maliciously|adverbial particle|go|possess
Maliciously holding on.
影響 着 整個 生態 是 不 健康 的
impact|ongoing action marker|entire|ecosystem|is|not|healthy|possessive particle
It is unhealthy for the entire ecosystem.
那 怎樣 去 處理 這些 問題 呢
then|how|to|handle|these|problems|question particle
So how do we deal with these issues?
這些 不是 另 一些 更加 麻煩 的 問題 嗎
these|are not|another|some|even more|troublesome|(possessive particle)|questions|question particle
Aren't these even more troublesome problems?
那個 問題 很 大
that|question|very|big
That problem is quite significant.
我 想 今天 不會 有 時間 覆蓋 太 多
I|want|today|will not|have|time|cover|too|much
I don't think there will be time to cover too much today.
我 想 我 粗疏 地 回應 一下
I|want|I|roughly|adverbial particle|respond|a little
I want to respond to this roughly.
第一 是 我 想 以上 問題 都 是 存在 的
first|is|I|want|above|questions|all|are|existing|particle indicating possession or modification
First, I want to say that the above issues do exist.
區塊 鏈 肯定 不是 一個 完美 的 方案
block|chain|definitely|is not|a|perfect|possessive particle|solution
Blockchain is definitely not a perfect solution.
可以 解決 所有 事情
can|solve|all|matters
It cannot solve everything.
而剛 才 我 想 說 的 東西 是
and just|now|I|want|to say|possessive particle|thing|is
What I just wanted to say is
有 一個 東西 我 覺得 特別 重要
there is|a|thing|I|think|especially|important
There is one thing that I think is particularly important
以上 我們 在 說 的 那些 貨幣
above|we|are|talking|possessive particle|those|currencies
The currencies we have been talking about above
這些 共同體
these|communities
These communities
它 和 物理 世界 裏面 民族 國家 的 不 一樣 之 處
it|and|physical|world|inside|ethnic group|country|possessive particle|not|the same|possessive particle|place
It is different from the nation-states in the physical world.
這個 共同體 是 放任 的
this|community|is|laissez-faire|possessive particle
This community is permissive.
放任 是 體現 在 你 可以 自己 選擇 任何 事情
laissez-faire|is|embodied|in|you|can|yourself|choose|any|thing
Permissiveness is embodied in the fact that you can choose anything for yourself.
亦 都 可以 選擇 離開
also|all|can|choose|leave
You can also choose to leave.
即是 我們 的 用 腳 投票
that means|we|possessive particle|use|feet|vote
This is our way of voting with our feet.
你 亦 都 可以 同時 在 不同 的 共同體 裏面
you|also|all|can|simultaneously|in|different|possessive particle|communities|inside
You can also exist or live in different communities at the same time.
存在 或者 生活
existence|or|life
There is also a more special point.
還有 一個 更加 特別 的 點 是
there is still|one|even more|special|possessive particle|point|is
你 可以 有 一個 叫 「複製 」(fork)的 概念
you|can|have|a|called|fork||possessive particle|concept
You can have a concept called 'fork'.
因為 數位 世界 的 特性 就是 你 可以 無限 複製
because|digital|world|possessive particle|characteristic|is|you|can|unlimited|copy
Because the nature of the digital world is that you can copy infinitely.
而且 沒有 成本
moreover|no|cost
And there is no cost.
你 甚至乎 可以 複製 一個
you|even|can|copy|one
You can even copy one.
比如 你 覺得 今日 的 香港 不好
for example|you|think|today|possessive particle|Hong Kong|not good
For example, you think today's Hong Kong is not good.
你 不 能夠 複製 香港 出來
you|not|able to|copy|Hong Kong|out
You cannot replicate Hong Kong.
所以 有人 可能 提出 一些 概念
so|someone|might|propose|some|concepts
So some people might propose certain concepts.
可不可以 在 某處 買 一個 島
can (I)|at|somewhere|buy|one|island
Can we buy an island somewhere?
九七 的 時候 已經 有人 這樣 說
1997|possessive particle|time|already|someone|like this|said
Someone said this back in '97.
但是 那件事 都 是 會 不同 了
but|that matter|all|is|will|different|past tense marker
But that matter will be different.
很 明顯 會 不同 了
very|obvious|will|different|past tense marker
It will obviously be different.
但是 數碼 世界 是 真的 能夠 做到
but|digital|world|is|really|able to|achieve
But the digital world can really make it happen.
我 其實 跳過 了 中間 很多 細節
I|actually|skipped|past tense marker|in between|many|details
I actually skipped a lot of details in between.
其實 有 很多 博弈 理論 等等
actually|has|many|game|theories|etc
In fact, there are many game theories and so on.
盡 可能 去 避免 你 剛才 所說 的 事情 發生
as much|possible|to|avoid|you|just now|said|possessive particle|thing|happen
Try to avoid the things you just mentioned as much as possible.
但是 時間 關係
but|time|constraint
But due to time constraints.
不 能夠 鑽得 太 深去 技術 的 討論
not|able to|delve|too|deeply into|technology|possessive particle|discussion
Cannot delve too deeply into technical discussions.
我 當 那些 事情 避免 不到 真的 發生
I|thought|those|things|avoid|not able to|really|happen
I think those things are unavoidable and will really happen.
最 最後 那 一招
most|final|that|move
The final move.
我們 這個 世界 還 可以 使出 最後 一招
we|this|world|still|can|use|last|move
In this world, we can still use the final move.
就是 所謂 「另開 一條 政府 的 分叉 線 」(forkthegovernment)
that is|so-called|open another|a|government|possessive particle|fork|line|
This is what is called "fork the government".
整個 複製 一套 出來
whole|copy|set|out
Completely replicate a set.
到 這 一分鐘 之前 的 那個 世界
to|this|one minute|before|possessive particle|that|world
To the world before this minute.
我 都 滿意 的
I|also|satisfied|past tense marker
I am satisfied with that.
不過 這 一分鐘 發生 了 一件 事 某 一個 轉折
but|this|one minute|happened|past tense marker|one|thing|certain|one|turning point
However, in this one minute, something happened, a certain turning point.
令到 我 不再 想 在 這個 世界 生活
make|I|no longer|want|in|this|world|live
It made me no longer want to live in this world.
我 就 用 這 一秒鐘 的 區塊 來 複製 一份
I|will|use|this|one second|possessive particle|block|to|copy|a copy
I will use this one second block to create a copy.
成立 一個 新 的 世界
establish|a|new|possessive particle|world
Establish a new world.
因為 有 很多 人 都 不滿意
because|there are|many|people|all|not satisfied
Because many people are not satisfied.
所以 他們 就 會 在 這個 新 的 世界 裏 生活
so|they|then|will|in|this|new|possessive particle|world|inside|live
So they will live in this new world.
而且 大家 的 狀態 是 保持 的
and|everyone|possessive particle|state|is|maintained|past action particle
Moreover, everyone's state is maintained.
將它 帶到 去 另 一個 世界
take it|to another|go|another|one|world
They will bring it to another world.
所以 倒 轉頭 來說
so|to pour|to turn around|to say
So, turning back to say
亦 都 因為 有 這樣 的 機制 發生
also|all|because|has|such|possessive particle|mechanism|occurrence
it is also because there is such a mechanism in place
所以 沒有 這麼 容易 讓 人 予取予求
so|not|this|easy|let|people|take advantage of
that it is not so easy to let people take whatever they want
搞 死 這個 世界
mess up|die|this|world
to ruin this world
如果 真的 搞 死 了
if|really|mess||
If it really ends up dead.
大家 就 走
everyone|then|leave
Everyone just leaves.
那 他 在 這個 世界 裏 稱王稱霸
that|he|in|this|world|inside|rules supreme
Then he reigns supreme in this world.
其實 都 是 沒有 價值 的
actually|all|is|without|value|particle
In fact, it is all worthless.
這個 有 少少 鑽 得 深 了 一點
this|has|a little|drill|to|deep|past tense marker|a bit
This is a bit too deep.
我 覺得 這個 有趣
I|think|this|interesting
I think this is interesting.
因為 他 在 說 用 數位 產生 的 貨幣
because|he|is|saying|using|digital|generated|possessive particle|currency
Because he is talking about currency generated digitally.
如果 你 只是 看 法幣
if|you|only|look|fiat currency
If you only look at fiat currency.
法幣 還 保有 物理 的 特性
fiat currency|still|retains|physical|possessive particle|characteristics
Fiat currency still retains physical characteristics.
那些 是 一個 很 不同 的 地方
those|are|a|very|different|possessive particle|place
Those are very different places.
就是 不 能夠 複製
just|not|able to|copy
It simply cannot be replicated.
但是 它 可以 複製
but|it|can|copy
However, it can be replicated.
不同 的 地方 是 在於
different|possessive particle|places|is|in the aspect of
The difference in various places is in
如果 只是 法幣 我 是 逃不掉 的
if|only|fiat currency|I|am|cannot escape|(particle indicating past action)
If it's just fiat currency, I can't escape.
我 舉 一個 例子
I|will give|one|example
Let me give an example.
我 不是 隨意 想 移民 就 移民
I|am not|casually|want|to immigrate|then|immigrate
I can't just immigrate whenever I want.
走 不到
walk|cannot reach
Can't go.
如果 我 留在 香港
if|I|stay in|Hong Kong
If I stay in Hong Kong.
如果 在 香港 只是 港幣 沒有 其他 社會 認可 的 貨幣
if|in|Hong Kong|only|Hong Kong dollar|has no|other|society|recognized|possessive particle|currency
If in Hong Kong there is only Hong Kong dollars and no other socially recognized currency.
在 物理 世界 中 你 只能 逼 着 要 用
in|physics|world|within|you|can only|force|particle|must|use
In the physical world, you can only force yourself to use it.
所以 當 出現 了 很多 剛才 所說 的 問題
so|when|appeared|past tense marker|many|just now|mentioned|possessive particle|questions
So when many of the problems mentioned earlier arise
現實 世界 都 有
reality|world|all|have
they also exist in the real world
像 有 一些 人 會 壟斷
like|have|some|people|will|monopolize
like some people monopolizing
有 一些 不 公平 的 分配 方式
have|some|not|fair|possessive particle|distribution|method
and some unfair distribution methods
用 這種 貨幣 令到 人 生活 得 很 悲慘
use|this kind of|currency|makes|people|live|to be|very|miserable
Using this kind of currency makes people's lives very miserable.
但 你 逃不掉
but|you|can't escape
But you can't escape.
你 被迫 在 這裏 住 在 這裏 委曲求全
you|forced|to|here|live|to|here|compromise for the sake of overall peace
You are forced to live here and compromise.
但 如果 在 數碼 世界 就 不同
but|if|in|digital|world|then|different
But in the digital world, it's different.
有個 積極 的 東西
there is a|positive|possessive particle|thing
There is a positive thing.
起碼 可以 創造 很多 可能 出來
at least|can|create|many|possibilities|come out
At least it can create many possibilities.
於是 這個 世界 不行
so|this|world|cannot
So this world is not working.
下 一個 下 一個 囉
Next one, next one then.
我 永遠 都 可以 移民 的
I|forever|all|can|immigrate|particle indicating past action
I can always immigrate.
在 這個 層面 上
at|this|level|on
On this level.
有些 像 奇異 博士 那些
some|like|strange|doctor|those
Some like Doctor Strange.
不停 複製 很多 不同 的 世界 出來
continuously|copy|many|different|possessive particle|worlds|out
Continuously replicating many different worlds.
去 找 一個 可能
go|find|a|possibility
Go find a possibility
這個 移民 的 可能
this|immigration|possessive particle|possibility
The possibility of this immigration
我 覺得 可能 是 因為 技術 的 進步 而 引致
I|think|possibly|is|because|technology|possessive particle|advancement|and|caused
I think it might be due to the advancement of technology
容許 這件 事 出現
allow|this|matter|to happen
Allowing this matter to occur
但 在 物理 世界 我 做 不到
But in the physical world, I can't do it.
這個 就 令到 好像 似乎 有些 問題
this|just|caused|seems|apparently|some|problems
This makes it seem like there are some problems.
起碼 不是 完全 沒有
at least|not|completely|without
At least it's not completely absent.
但 有 機會 起碼 避免 到 或者 減輕 到 一些
but|have|opportunity|at least|avoid|to|or|alleviate|to|some
But there is a chance to at least avoid or reduce some.
今日 其實 你 說 到 我 會 嘗試 去
today|actually|you|said|that|I|will|try|go
Today, actually, you mentioned that I would try to go
進入 一些 更加 技術性 的 問題
enter|some|more|technical|possessive particle|questions
into some more technical issues
比如 區塊 鏈
for example|block|chain
such as blockchain
或者 怎樣 複製 政府
or|how|copy|government
or how to replicate the government
其實 是 很多 的
actually|is|many|possessive particle
Actually, there are many.
很多 技術 的 層面 我們 很 難 一一 探討
many|technology|possessive particle|aspects|we|very|difficult|one by one|discuss
There are many technical aspects that are difficult for us to explore one by one.
所以 我 話 其實 很 想 探討
so|I|said|actually|very|want|to discuss
So I said I actually want to explore.
很難 在 最後 一次 的 兩分鐘
very hard|in|last|time|possessive particle|two minutes
It's hard to do so in the last two minutes.
尤其 是 在 這個 哲學 節目 裏面
especially|is|in|this|philosophy|program|inside
Especially in this philosophical program.
所以 我們 都 不是 很 懂 那些 技術 的 問題
so|we|all|not|very|understand|those|technical|possessive particle|questions
So we don't really understand those technical issues.
所以 我 希望 真心 的
so|I|hope|sincerely|(particle indicating adverbial action)
So I sincerely hope.
希望 可以 再 和 重建 在 其他 地方
hope|can|again|with|rebuild|in|other|places
I hope we can rebuild in other places.
或者 我們 再 有 下 一 集
maybe|we|again|have|next|one|episode
Maybe we will have another episode.
為 什麼 要 在 其他 地方
why|what|need|at|other|places
Why do we need to be in other places?
我們 要 再 請 他 上來
we|need|again|invite|he|come up
We need to invite him up again.
我們 在 數碼 世界 也 可以 的
we|in|digital|world|also|can|(particle indicating possibility)
We can also do it in the digital world.
可以 再 繼續 討論 下去
can|again|continue|discussion|further
We can continue the discussion.
其實 今天 的 時間 我 想 也 差不多
actually|today|possessive particle|time|I|want|also|almost
Actually, I think the time today is about up.
多謝 大家 的 收看
thank you|everyone|possessive particle|watching
Thank you all for watching.
希望 我們 下集 再見
hope|we|next episode|see you again
I hope to see you all in the next episode.
多謝 高建
thank you|Ko Kien
Thank you, Ko Kin.
找 他 簽名
find|he|signature
Get him to sign.
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