【 哲學 係 咁 傾 】ep. 11 密碼 貨幣 (6) 【哲学系咁倾】ep. 11 密码货币(6) [Philosophy is like this] ep. 11 Password Currency (6)

之前 所有 改正 的 歷史記錄 before|all|corrections|possessive particle|historical records All historical records of corrections made previously

全部 都 會 留在 這裏 all|also|will|stay in|here Will all be kept here

這是 令到 整件事 高度 透明 之外 this is|making|the whole matter|highly|transparent|beyond This makes the whole matter highly transparent as well

亦 很 去 中心化 很 沒有 大台 also|very|go|centralized|very|no|big platform It is also very decentralized and lacks a major platform.

它 決定 上 決策 上 it|decision|on|decision-making|on It decides on decision-making.

不是 某 一些 個別 的 個體 做 決定 not|certain|some|individual|possessive particle|entities|make|decisions It is not certain individual entities making decisions.

而 這 就是 技術性 容許 我們 發生 的 事 and|this|is|technical|allowed|us|happening|possessive particle|thing And this is what the technology allows us to happen.

之前 就算 可能 人人 都 想 做 before|even if|possibly|everyone|all|wants|to do Previously, even if everyone might want to do it.

但 不 容易 的 but|not|easy|particle indicating possession or modification But it's not easy.

剛才 的 貝殼 例子 就是 just now|possessive particle|shell|example|is exactly The example of the shell just now is.

可能 五個 人 可以 possibly|five|people|can Maybe five people can.

如果 一個 700 萬人 的 社會 if|a|million people|possessive particle|society If a society of 7 million people

甚至 只是 幾千 或 幾百 可能 已經 不行 了 even|just|a few thousand|or|a few hundred|might|already|not work|past tense marker even just a few thousand or a few hundred might not be feasible anymore

你 怎樣 可以 很 去 中心化 去 做 決定 呢 you|how|can|very|go|centralized|to|make|decision|question particle how can you decentralize decision-making?

但是 區塊 鏈 技術 就 令到 這件 事 可能 but|block|chain|technology|then|make|this|thing|possible But blockchain technology makes this possible.

我 猜 是 這樣 I|guess|am|like this I guess it's like this.

但是 我 有 一個 問題 就是 but|I|have|one|question|that is But I have a question.

剛才 鹽 叔 有 說到 just now|salt|uncle|has|mentioned Just now, Uncle Yim mentioned.

可能 有些 觀眾 未必 知道 possibly|some|audience|not necessarily|know Some audience members might not know.

就是 現在 有 一些 技術 that is|now|has|some|technology There are some technologies right now.

是 你 持有 某 一些 貨幣 或者 NFT is|you|hold|some|certain|currency|or|NFT You hold certain currencies or NFTs.

今天 不 討論 today|not|discuss We are not discussing that today.

你 是 有權 去 投票 的 you|are|have the right|to|vote|particle indicating completed action You have the right to vote.

而 投票 可能 就 因應 你 持有 的 那些 貨幣量 and|voting|may|just|depending on|you|hold|possessive particle|those|amount of currency And the voting may depend on the amount of currency you hold.

有 多少 百分比 去 決定 have|how much|percentage|to|decide What percentage will be used to decide?

但是 有 一個 問題 就是 but|has|one|question|that is But there is a problem.

因為 現在 很多 貨幣 because|now|many|currencies Because there are many currencies now.

我們 在 說 加密 貨幣 we|are|talking|cryptocurrency|currency We are talking about cryptocurrency.

所謂 沒有 大台 都 好 so-called|without|big stage|also|good So-called, it doesn't matter if there is no big platform.

其實 我 怎樣 去 持有 它 actually|I|how|to|possess|it Actually, how I hold it,

都 是 用 法定 貨幣 的 金錢 去 換回來 all|are|using|legal|currency|possessive particle|money|to|exchange back is still using fiat currency to exchange for it.

那 這樣 不是 也 會 有 一些 問題 衍生 then|like this|not|also|will|have|some|problems|arise Then, wouldn't this also lead to some problems?

而 反而 會 再有 大台 之下 and|on the contrary|will|have again|big stage|under And instead, there will be more under a big platform.

那個 問題 是 什麼 呢 that|question|is|what|particle What is that problem?

如果 我 是 很 有 財力 的 if|I|am|very|have|wealthy|(particle indicating possession) If I am very wealthy,

我 有 幾百億 的 美金 身家 I|have|several hundred billion|possessive particle|US dollars|net worth I have several billion dollars in assets.

我 把 它 兌換 成 某 一種 幣 I|particle indicating disposal|it|exchange|into|a certain|one kind of|currency I exchange it for a certain type of currency.

同時 我 又 因應 我 擁有 的 持有 量 去 投票 at the same time|I|again|according to|I|own|possessive particle|holding|quantity|to|vote At the same time, I vote according to the amount I hold.

那 我 豈不是 可以 控制 整個 機制 怎樣 去 運作 then|I|shouldn't|can|control|entire|mechanism|how|to|operate Then, can't I control how the entire mechanism operates?

你 想一想 you|think about it Think about it.

如果 是 在 一些 有 中心 有大台 的 機制 之下 if|is|in|some|have|center|have large platform|possessive particle|mechanism|under If it is under a mechanism with a central authority.

比如說 美金 for example|US dollar For example, the US dollar.

或者 一些 密碼 貨幣 都 是 有 大台 的 Or some cryptocurrencies that also have a central authority.

這樣的話 其實 它 是 可以 操控 的 in that case|actually|it|is|can|controlled|particle indicating past action In that case, it can actually be controlled.

他 就 覺得 你 這些 是 惡意 的 收購 he|then|thinks|you|these|are|malicious|possessive particle|acquisition He thinks that these are malicious acquisitions.

惡意 地 去 持有 maliciously|adverbial particle|go|possess Maliciously holding on.

影響 着 整個 生態 是 不 健康 的 impact|ongoing action marker|entire|ecosystem|is|not|healthy|possessive particle It is unhealthy for the entire ecosystem.

那 怎樣 去 處理 這些 問題 呢 then|how|to|handle|these|problems|question particle So how do we deal with these issues?

這些 不是 另 一些 更加 麻煩 的 問題 嗎 these|are not|another|some|even more|troublesome|(possessive particle)|questions|question particle Aren't these even more troublesome problems?

那個 問題 很 大 that|question|very|big That problem is quite significant.

我 想 今天 不會 有 時間 覆蓋 太 多 I|want|today|will not|have|time|cover|too|much I don't think there will be time to cover too much today.

我 想 我 粗疏 地 回應 一下 I|want|I|roughly|adverbial particle|respond|a little I want to respond to this roughly.

第一 是 我 想 以上 問題 都 是 存在 的 first|is|I|want|above|questions|all|are|existing|particle indicating possession or modification First, I want to say that the above issues do exist.

區塊 鏈 肯定 不是 一個 完美 的 方案 block|chain|definitely|is not|a|perfect|possessive particle|solution Blockchain is definitely not a perfect solution.

可以 解決 所有 事情 can|solve|all|matters It cannot solve everything.

而剛 才 我 想 說 的 東西 是 and just|now|I|want|to say|possessive particle|thing|is What I just wanted to say is

有 一個 東西 我 覺得 特別 重要 there is|a|thing|I|think|especially|important There is one thing that I think is particularly important

以上 我們 在 說 的 那些 貨幣 above|we|are|talking|possessive particle|those|currencies The currencies we have been talking about above

這些 共同體 these|communities These communities

它 和 物理 世界 裏面 民族 國家 的 不 一樣 之 處 it|and|physical|world|inside|ethnic group|country|possessive particle|not|the same|possessive particle|place It is different from the nation-states in the physical world.

這個 共同體 是 放任 的 this|community|is|laissez-faire|possessive particle This community is permissive.

放任 是 體現 在 你 可以 自己 選擇 任何 事情 laissez-faire|is|embodied|in|you|can|yourself|choose|any|thing Permissiveness is embodied in the fact that you can choose anything for yourself.

亦 都 可以 選擇 離開 also|all|can|choose|leave You can also choose to leave.

即是 我們 的 用 腳 投票 that means|we|possessive particle|use|feet|vote This is our way of voting with our feet.

你 亦 都 可以 同時 在 不同 的 共同體 裏面 you|also|all|can|simultaneously|in|different|possessive particle|communities|inside You can also exist or live in different communities at the same time.

存在 或者 生活 existence|or|life There is also a more special point.

還有 一個 更加 特別 的 點 是 there is still|one|even more|special|possessive particle|point|is

你 可以 有 一個 叫 「複製 」（fork）的 概念 you|can|have|a|called|fork||possessive particle|concept You can have a concept called 'fork'.

因為 數位 世界 的 特性 就是 你 可以 無限 複製 because|digital|world|possessive particle|characteristic|is|you|can|unlimited|copy Because the nature of the digital world is that you can copy infinitely.

而且 沒有 成本 moreover|no|cost And there is no cost.

你 甚至乎 可以 複製 一個 you|even|can|copy|one You can even copy one.

比如 你 覺得 今日 的 香港 不好 for example|you|think|today|possessive particle|Hong Kong|not good For example, you think today's Hong Kong is not good.

你 不 能夠 複製 香港 出來 you|not|able to|copy|Hong Kong|out You cannot replicate Hong Kong.

所以 有人 可能 提出 一些 概念 so|someone|might|propose|some|concepts So some people might propose certain concepts.

可不可以 在 某處 買 一個 島 can (I)|at|somewhere|buy|one|island Can we buy an island somewhere?

九七 的 時候 已經 有人 這樣 說 1997|possessive particle|time|already|someone|like this|said Someone said this back in '97.

但是 那件事 都 是 會 不同 了 but|that matter|all|is|will|different|past tense marker But that matter will be different.

很 明顯 會 不同 了 very|obvious|will|different|past tense marker It will obviously be different.

但是 數碼 世界 是 真的 能夠 做到 but|digital|world|is|really|able to|achieve But the digital world can really make it happen.

我 其實 跳過 了 中間 很多 細節 I|actually|skipped|past tense marker|in between|many|details I actually skipped a lot of details in between.

其實 有 很多 博弈 理論 等等 actually|has|many|game|theories|etc In fact, there are many game theories and so on.

盡 可能 去 避免 你 剛才 所說 的 事情 發生 as much|possible|to|avoid|you|just now|said|possessive particle|thing|happen Try to avoid the things you just mentioned as much as possible.

但是 時間 關係 but|time|constraint But due to time constraints.

不 能夠 鑽得 太 深去 技術 的 討論 not|able to|delve|too|deeply into|technology|possessive particle|discussion Cannot delve too deeply into technical discussions.

我 當 那些 事情 避免 不到 真的 發生 I|thought|those|things|avoid|not able to|really|happen I think those things are unavoidable and will really happen.

最 最後 那 一招 most|final|that|move The final move.

我們 這個 世界 還 可以 使出 最後 一招 we|this|world|still|can|use|last|move In this world, we can still use the final move.

就是 所謂 「另開 一條 政府 的 分叉 線 」（forkthegovernment） that is|so-called|open another|a|government|possessive particle|fork|line| This is what is called "fork the government".

整個 複製 一套 出來 whole|copy|set|out Completely replicate a set.

到 這 一分鐘 之前 的 那個 世界 to|this|one minute|before|possessive particle|that|world To the world before this minute.

我 都 滿意 的 I|also|satisfied|past tense marker I am satisfied with that.

不過 這 一分鐘 發生 了 一件 事 某 一個 轉折 but|this|one minute|happened|past tense marker|one|thing|certain|one|turning point However, in this one minute, something happened, a certain turning point.

令到 我 不再 想 在 這個 世界 生活 make|I|no longer|want|in|this|world|live It made me no longer want to live in this world.

我 就 用 這 一秒鐘 的 區塊 來 複製 一份 I|will|use|this|one second|possessive particle|block|to|copy|a copy I will use this one second block to create a copy.

成立 一個 新 的 世界 establish|a|new|possessive particle|world Establish a new world.

因為 有 很多 人 都 不滿意 because|there are|many|people|all|not satisfied Because many people are not satisfied.

所以 他們 就 會 在 這個 新 的 世界 裏 生活 so|they|then|will|in|this|new|possessive particle|world|inside|live So they will live in this new world.

而且 大家 的 狀態 是 保持 的 and|everyone|possessive particle|state|is|maintained|past action particle Moreover, everyone's state is maintained.

將它 帶到 去 另 一個 世界 take it|to another|go|another|one|world They will bring it to another world.

所以 倒 轉頭 來說 so|to pour|to turn around|to say So, turning back to say

亦 都 因為 有 這樣 的 機制 發生 also|all|because|has|such|possessive particle|mechanism|occurrence it is also because there is such a mechanism in place

所以 沒有 這麼 容易 讓 人 予取予求 so|not|this|easy|let|people|take advantage of that it is not so easy to let people take whatever they want

搞 死 這個 世界 mess up|die|this|world to ruin this world

如果 真的 搞 死 了 if|really|mess|| If it really ends up dead.

大家 就 走 everyone|then|leave Everyone just leaves.

那 他 在 這個 世界 裏 稱王稱霸 that|he|in|this|world|inside|rules supreme Then he reigns supreme in this world.

其實 都 是 沒有 價值 的 actually|all|is|without|value|particle In fact, it is all worthless.

這個 有 少少 鑽 得 深 了 一點 this|has|a little|drill|to|deep|past tense marker|a bit This is a bit too deep.

我 覺得 這個 有趣 I|think|this|interesting I think this is interesting.

因為 他 在 說 用 數位 產生 的 貨幣 because|he|is|saying|using|digital|generated|possessive particle|currency Because he is talking about currency generated digitally.

如果 你 只是 看 法幣 if|you|only|look|fiat currency If you only look at fiat currency.

法幣 還 保有 物理 的 特性 fiat currency|still|retains|physical|possessive particle|characteristics Fiat currency still retains physical characteristics.

那些 是 一個 很 不同 的 地方 those|are|a|very|different|possessive particle|place Those are very different places.

就是 不 能夠 複製 just|not|able to|copy It simply cannot be replicated.

但是 它 可以 複製 but|it|can|copy However, it can be replicated.

不同 的 地方 是 在於 different|possessive particle|places|is|in the aspect of The difference in various places is in

如果 只是 法幣 我 是 逃不掉 的 if|only|fiat currency|I|am|cannot escape|(particle indicating past action) If it's just fiat currency, I can't escape.

我 舉 一個 例子 I|will give|one|example Let me give an example.

我 不是 隨意 想 移民 就 移民 I|am not|casually|want|to immigrate|then|immigrate I can't just immigrate whenever I want.

走 不到 walk|cannot reach Can't go.

如果 我 留在 香港 if|I|stay in|Hong Kong If I stay in Hong Kong.

如果 在 香港 只是 港幣 沒有 其他 社會 認可 的 貨幣 if|in|Hong Kong|only|Hong Kong dollar|has no|other|society|recognized|possessive particle|currency If in Hong Kong there is only Hong Kong dollars and no other socially recognized currency.

在 物理 世界 中 你 只能 逼 着 要 用 in|physics|world|within|you|can only|force|particle|must|use In the physical world, you can only force yourself to use it.

所以 當 出現 了 很多 剛才 所說 的 問題 so|when|appeared|past tense marker|many|just now|mentioned|possessive particle|questions So when many of the problems mentioned earlier arise

現實 世界 都 有 reality|world|all|have they also exist in the real world

像 有 一些 人 會 壟斷 like|have|some|people|will|monopolize like some people monopolizing

有 一些 不 公平 的 分配 方式 have|some|not|fair|possessive particle|distribution|method and some unfair distribution methods

用 這種 貨幣 令到 人 生活 得 很 悲慘 use|this kind of|currency|makes|people|live|to be|very|miserable Using this kind of currency makes people's lives very miserable.

但 你 逃不掉 but|you|can't escape But you can't escape.

你 被迫 在 這裏 住 在 這裏 委曲求全 you|forced|to|here|live|to|here|compromise for the sake of overall peace You are forced to live here and compromise.

但 如果 在 數碼 世界 就 不同 but|if|in|digital|world|then|different But in the digital world, it's different.

有個 積極 的 東西 there is a|positive|possessive particle|thing There is a positive thing.

起碼 可以 創造 很多 可能 出來 at least|can|create|many|possibilities|come out At least it can create many possibilities.

於是 這個 世界 不行 so|this|world|cannot So this world is not working.

下 一個 下 一個 囉 Next one, next one then.

我 永遠 都 可以 移民 的 I|forever|all|can|immigrate|particle indicating past action I can always immigrate.

在 這個 層面 上 at|this|level|on On this level.

有些 像 奇異 博士 那些 some|like|strange|doctor|those Some like Doctor Strange.

不停 複製 很多 不同 的 世界 出來 continuously|copy|many|different|possessive particle|worlds|out Continuously replicating many different worlds.

去 找 一個 可能 go|find|a|possibility Go find a possibility

這個 移民 的 可能 this|immigration|possessive particle|possibility The possibility of this immigration

我 覺得 可能 是 因為 技術 的 進步 而 引致 I|think|possibly|is|because|technology|possessive particle|advancement|and|caused I think it might be due to the advancement of technology

容許 這件 事 出現 allow|this|matter|to happen Allowing this matter to occur

但 在 物理 世界 我 做 不到 But in the physical world, I can't do it.

這個 就 令到 好像 似乎 有些 問題 this|just|caused|seems|apparently|some|problems This makes it seem like there are some problems.

起碼 不是 完全 沒有 at least|not|completely|without At least it's not completely absent.

但 有 機會 起碼 避免 到 或者 減輕 到 一些 but|have|opportunity|at least|avoid|to|or|alleviate|to|some But there is a chance to at least avoid or reduce some.

今日 其實 你 說 到 我 會 嘗試 去 today|actually|you|said|that|I|will|try|go Today, actually, you mentioned that I would try to go

進入 一些 更加 技術性 的 問題 enter|some|more|technical|possessive particle|questions into some more technical issues

比如 區塊 鏈 for example|block|chain such as blockchain

或者 怎樣 複製 政府 or|how|copy|government or how to replicate the government

其實 是 很多 的 actually|is|many|possessive particle Actually, there are many.

很多 技術 的 層面 我們 很 難 一一 探討 many|technology|possessive particle|aspects|we|very|difficult|one by one|discuss There are many technical aspects that are difficult for us to explore one by one.

所以 我 話 其實 很 想 探討 so|I|said|actually|very|want|to discuss So I said I actually want to explore.

很難 在 最後 一次 的 兩分鐘 very hard|in|last|time|possessive particle|two minutes It's hard to do so in the last two minutes.

尤其 是 在 這個 哲學 節目 裏面 especially|is|in|this|philosophy|program|inside Especially in this philosophical program.

所以 我們 都 不是 很 懂 那些 技術 的 問題 so|we|all|not|very|understand|those|technical|possessive particle|questions So we don't really understand those technical issues.

所以 我 希望 真心 的 so|I|hope|sincerely|(particle indicating adverbial action) So I sincerely hope.

希望 可以 再 和 重建 在 其他 地方 hope|can|again|with|rebuild|in|other|places I hope we can rebuild in other places.

或者 我們 再 有 下 一 集 maybe|we|again|have|next|one|episode Maybe we will have another episode.

為 什麼 要 在 其他 地方 why|what|need|at|other|places Why do we need to be in other places?

我們 要 再 請 他 上來 we|need|again|invite|he|come up We need to invite him up again.

我們 在 數碼 世界 也 可以 的 we|in|digital|world|also|can|(particle indicating possibility) We can also do it in the digital world.

可以 再 繼續 討論 下去 can|again|continue|discussion|further We can continue the discussion.

其實 今天 的 時間 我 想 也 差不多 actually|today|possessive particle|time|I|want|also|almost Actually, I think the time today is about up.

多謝 大家 的 收看 thank you|everyone|possessive particle|watching Thank you all for watching.

希望 我們 下集 再見 hope|we|next episode|see you again I hope to see you all in the next episode.

多謝 高建 thank you|Ko Kien Thank you, Ko Kin.

找 他 簽名 find|he|signature Get him to sign.