25: Tanker om homofili Thoughts|about|homosexuality 25: Gedanken zur Homosexualität 25: Reflexiones sobre la homosexualidad 25: Pensieri sull'omosessualità 25: Eşcinsellik üzerine düşünceler 25: Thoughts on homosexuality

Dagen min er tom for mellomrom The day|my|is|empty|of|spaces My day is empty of space

Alt går så fort, og jeg får ikke slappet av Everything|goes|so|fast|and|I|get|not|relaxed|off Everything goes so fast, and I can't relax

Jeg heter Klara, og jeg er agnostiker. My|name|Klara|and|I|am|agnostic My name is Klara, and I am an agnostic.

Det betyr at jeg ikke tror på en gud,- It|means|that|I|not|believe|in|a|god That means I do not believe in a god,-

-men ikke er negativ til at en gud kan finnes. but|not|is|negative|to|that|a|god|can|exist -but I am not negative about the possibility that a god may exist.

Fordi jeg mener vi ikke kan vite det. Because|I|believe|we|cannot|can|know|it Because I believe we cannot know that.

Hei, jeg heter Lia Noor og er muslim. Hi|I|am called|||and|am|Muslim Hi, my name is Lia Noor and I am a Muslim.

Nordmenn flest tror ikke på Gud. Norwegians|most|believe|not|in|God Most Norwegians do not believe in God. Det gjør jeg. That|do|I I do.

Utenom det er vi ganske like. Except for|that|are|we|quite|similar Other than that, we are quite similar.

Jeg er født i Norge. I|am|born|in|Norway I was born in Norway. Foreldrene mine også. My parents|my|also My parents too.

Hei, jeg heter Elvira og er buddhist. Hi|I|am called|Elvira|and|am|Buddhist Hi, my name is Elvira and I am a Buddhist.

Foreldrene mine konverterte da jeg var liten. My parents|my|converted|when|I|was|little My parents converted when I was little.

Slik har jeg fått inspirerende mennesker rundt meg i oppveksten- This way|has|I|gotten|inspiring|people|around|me|in|childhood This is how I have had inspiring people around me during my upbringing.

-og en god livsfilosofi. and|a|good|life philosophy -and a good life philosophy.

Hallo, mitt navn er Jonas. Hello|my|name|is|Jonas Hello, my name is Jonas.

Jeg er pinsevenn og trives svært godt i kirken og i kirkefellesskapet. I|am|Pentecostal|and|thrive|very|well|in|the church|and|in|the church community I am a Pentecostal and feel very comfortable in the church and in the church community.

Sindre her. Sindre|here Sindre here. Jeg er kristen. I|am|Christian I am Christian.

Jeg mener det er en privatsak. I|believe|it|is|a|private matter I believe it is a private matter.

Går ikke så mye i kirken. Goes|not|so|much|to|church I don't go to church much. Går ikke med kors. Does|not|wear|cross I don't wear a cross.

Veldig kleint å bli satt i bås med veldig religiøse mennesker. Very|awkward|to|be|put|in|box|with|very|religious|people Very awkward to be put in the same category as very religious people.

Hei, jeg heter Espen og er instruktør for Elvebakkenrevyen- Hi|I|am called|Espen|and|am|instructor|for|Elvebakken revue Hi, my name is Espen and I am the instructor for the Elvebakken revue.

-og moderator for disse samtalene. and|moderator|for|these|conversations -and the moderator for these conversations.

En god revy fanger tidsånden. A|good|revue|captures|the spirit of the times A good revue captures the spirit of the times.

Da må vi også tørre å snakke om de store spørsmålene i livet. Then|must|we|also|dare|to|talk|about|the|big|questions|in|life Then we must also dare to talk about the big questions in life.

Vi må jobbe litt revy, skal vi bli ferdige. We|must|work|a little|revue|shall|we|be|finished We need to work a bit on the revue if we are to finish.

Ikke så lenge til premieren. Not|so|long|until|the premiere Not long until the premiere.

-Hva skulle du si? What|should|you|say -What were you going to say? -Jeg har en idé om en sketsj- I|have|an|idea|about|a|sketch -I have an idea for a sketch-

-som handler om homofile og lesbiske... that|deals|with|gay|and|lesbian -that is about gay men and lesbians...

Jeg vet ikke om det kan gå, men ideen til sketsjen kunne være- I|know|not|if|it|can|work|but|idea|for|sketch|could|be I don't know if it can work, but the idea for the sketch could be-

-hvordan det har blitt så sykt trendy å være homofil. how|it|has|become|so|sickly|trendy|to|be|gay -how it has become so incredibly trendy to be gay.

Hvordan de som er hetero, føler seg mislykket. How|they|who|are|heterosexual|feel|themselves|unsuccessful How those who are heterosexual feel unsuccessful.

Ikke like trendy som de homofile. Not|as|trendy|as|the|gay people Not as trendy as the homosexuals.

Jeg syns i hvert fall at vi kan tulle med så å si alt mulig. I|think|in|every|case|that|we|can|joke|with|so|to|say|everything|possible I think at least we can joke about just about anything.

Men vi behøver ikke være onde. But|we|need|not|to be|evil But we don't have to be mean.

Jeg vet ikke helt. I|know|not|completely I don't really know. Det er teit å lage humor av noe som er unaturlig. It|is|stupid|to|make|humor|out of|something|that|is|unnatural It's silly to make humor out of something that is unnatural.

Nesten alle religioner er mot. Almost|all|religions|are|against Almost all religions are against it.

Det står tydelig i Bibelen og Koranen at det er forbudt. It|states|clearly|in|the Bible|and|the Quran|that|it|is|forbidden It is clearly stated in the Bible and the Quran that it is forbidden.

-Sikker på at det står i Bibelen? Sure|that|it|it|says|in|the Bible -Are you sure it says that in the Bible? -Ja..! Yes -Yes..!

Espen, det står flere steder! Espen|it|is written|several|places Espen, it says it in several places!

Paulus skrev i korinterne at hvis menn ligger med andre menn,- Paul|wrote|in|Corinthians|that|if|men|lie|with|other|men Paul wrote in Corinthians that if men lie with other men,-

-slik de ligger med kvinner, så er det en dødssynd. like|they|lie|with|women|then|is|it|a|deadly sin -the way they lie with women, it is a mortal sin. Da skal de dø. Then|shall|they|die Then they shall die.

Du er så drøy noen ganger. You|are|so|outrageous|sometimes|times You are so outrageous sometimes. Mener du det? Do|you|it Do you mean that?

Ikke jeg, men det står i Bibelen. Not|I|but|it|says|in|the Bible Not me, but it says in the Bible.

Så må jeg lese ut hva jeg mener ut fra det. Then|must|I|read|through|what|I|mean|out|from|it So I have to read out what I think based on that.

-Sikker på at det står i Bibelen? Sure|that|it|it|says|in|the Bible -Are you sure it says in the Bible? -Ja..! Yes -Yes..!

Når du snakker sånn, blir jeg flau over å være kristen. When|you|talk|like that|become|I|embarrassed|about|to|be|Christian When you talk like that, I feel embarrassed to be a Christian.

Tenk på alle de homofile og lesbiske muslimene og kristne,- Think|of|all|the|gay|and|lesbian|Muslims|and|Christians Think of all the gay and lesbian Muslims and Christians,

-at de skal bli steinet og utstøtt fra samfunnet- that|they|shall|be|stoned|and|ostracized|from|society -that they should be stoned and ostracized from society-

-fordi de føler det de føler. because|they|feel|what|they|feel -because they feel what they feel.

Jeg føler det er helt feil. I|feel|it|is|completely|wrong I feel that it is completely wrong.

Vi bør heller snakke om kjærlighet og toleranse- We|should|rather|talk|about|love|and|tolerance We should rather talk about love and tolerance-

-enn om at homofili er forbudt. than|about|that|homosexuality|is|forbidden -than about homosexuality being forbidden.

Det mener jeg... It|means|I I believe that...

Jeg er ikke helt der, da. I|am|not|completely|there|then I'm not quite there yet.

Likevel er det ikke mer enn førti år siden homofili var forbudt i Norge. Nevertheless|is|it|not|more|than|forty|years|since|homosexuality|was|prohibited|in|Norway Still, it was only forty years ago that homosexuality was banned in Norway.

Det er tilfelle i en rekke land fortsatt. It|is|the case|in|a||countries|still This is still the case in a number of countries.

Og så fins det mange kristne og muslimer som mener det kan helbredes. And|then|there are|it|many|Christians|and|Muslims|who|believe|it|can|be healed And there are many Christians and Muslims who believe it can be cured.

Mange tror at fordi jeg er muslim, er jeg mot alle homofile. Many|believe|that|because|I|am|Muslim|am|I|against|all|homosexuals Many believe that because I am a Muslim, I am against all homosexuals.

Men det er ikke sant. But|it|is|not|true But that is not true.

I Koranen og hadithene står det- In|the Quran|and|the hadiths|it says|there In the Quran and the hadiths it says -

-at man skal respektere alle, men ikke følge dem. that|one|should|respect|everyone|but|not|follow|them -that one should respect everyone, but not follow them.

Men så om du er kristen eller buddhist og homofil,- But|then|if|you|are|Christian|or|Buddhist|and|gay But if you are Christian or Buddhist and gay,-

-betyr ikke det at jeg ikke skal respektere deg. means|not|it|that|I|not|should|respect|you -that doesn't mean I shouldn't respect you.

For det er dine valg, som du har ansvar for. For|it|is|your|choices|that|you|have|responsibility|for Because those are your choices, for which you are responsible.

Men jeg skal ikke følge deg, for jeg bør vite hva som er rett for meg. But|I|will|not|follow|you|because|I|should|know|what|that|is|right|for|me But I will not follow you, for I should know what is right for me.

Jeg syns buddhismen har den beste løsningen på dette. I|think|Buddhism|has|the|best|solution|to|this I think Buddhism has the best solution to this.

For i flere av våre skrifter- In|in|several|of|our|writings For in several of our writings-

-står det at det viktigste er å være oppriktig og ærlig mot hverandre. says|it|that|the|most important|is|to|be|sincere|and|honest|towards|each other -it says that the most important thing is to be sincere and honest with each other.

Det vil si at man trenger ikke være gift. It|will|say|that|one|needs|not|to be|married This means that one does not need to be married.

Men la oss si at du har lovet å være trofast. But|let's|us|say|that|you|have|promised|to|be|faithful But let's say you have promised to be faithful.

Overfor partneren eller kjæresten din må du jo holde det. In front of|partner|or|boyfriend|your|must|you|after all|keep|it You must keep that promise to your partner or girlfriend.

Men jeg syns det generelt er en veldig fin innstilling,- But|I|think|it|generally|is|a|very|nice|attitude But I generally think it's a very nice attitude,-

-at man kan være glad i hvem man vil,- that|one|can|be|happy|in|who|one|wants -that you can love whoever you want,-

-uten at det trenger å ha noe med andre å gjøre. without|that|it|needs|to|have|anything|with|others|to|do -without it needing to have anything to do with others.

At andre trenger å bry seg om det. That|others|need|to|||about|it That others need to care about it.

Det er jo lett å være buddhist- It|is|after all|easy|to|be|Buddhist It's easy to be a Buddhist-

-når hele religionen er bygget på en kardemommelov. when|the whole|religion|is|built|on|a|kardemommelaw -when the whole religion is built on a cardamom law.

Som sier at du må være snill mot... That|says|that|you|must|be|kind|to As it says that you must be kind to...

Det er bare å elske. It|is|just|to|love You just have to love. Du kan gjøre hva du vil. You|can|do|what|you|want You can do whatever you want.

Mann og kvinne er skapt av Gud for å være sammen. Man|and|woman|is|created|by|God|to|be|be|together Man and woman are created by God to be together.

Men jeg føler ikke jeg kan si at du tar feil fordi jeg ikke tror på Gud. But|I|feel|not|I|can|say|that|you|are taking|wrong|because|I|not|believe|in|God But I don't feel I can say that you are wrong because I don't believe in God.

Det gjelder også islam og buddhismen. It|applies||Islam||Buddhism The same applies to Islam and Buddhism.

Men jeg syns det er rart å be menn, det er som oftest alltid menn,- But|I|think|it|is|strange|to|ask|men|it|is|as|most often|always|men But I think it's strange to ask men, it's most often always men,-

-å sjekke i gamle, religiøse skrifter for å se- to|check|in|old|religious|scriptures|to|to|see -to check in old, religious texts to see-

-hvem som kan elske hverandre. who|that|can|love|each other -who can love each other.

Skriftene ble skrevet for lenge siden, da det var samfunnsnormen,- The writings|were|written|for|a long|time ago|when|it|was|the social norm The scriptures were written a long time ago, when it was the societal norm,-

-å ikke være sammen mann og mann og kvinne og kvinne. to|not|be|together|man|and|||woman|| -not to be together man and man and woman and woman.

Da skulle det være mann og kvinne. Then|should|it|be|man|and|woman Then it was supposed to be man and woman.

Men det er så lenge siden at de ikke er relevante. But|it|is|so|long|since|that|they|not|are|relevant But it's been so long that they are no longer relevant. De er utdaterte. They|are|outdated They are outdated.

Det gjelder ikke samfunnet vårt, som konstant endrer seg. It|applies|not|society|our|which|constantly|changes|itself This does not apply to our society, which is constantly changing.

Så jeg føler man ikke kan se i disse skriftene- So|I|feel|one|not|can|see|in|these|writings So I feel one cannot look at these writings-

-for å sjekke hvem som kan elske hverandre. to|infinitive marker|check|who|that|can|love|each other -to check who can love each other.

Elsk den man vil, og vær den man er. Love|the|one|wants|and|be|the|one|is Love who you want, and be who you are. Slike ting blir det krig av. Such|things|become|it|war|from Such things lead to war.

Da skal vi ikke lage noe med homofili? Then|shall|we|not|create|anything|about|homosexuality So we shouldn't create anything with homosexuality?

Jo da! Yes|indeed Oh yes!

Da lager vi noe skikkelig juicy. Then|we make|we|something|really|juicy Then we'll make something really juicy.

Jeg skal det. I|will|it I will do that. Det blir dritbra. It|will be|really good It's going to be awesome.

Over alle tenkbare grenser. Over|all|conceivable|boundaries Beyond all conceivable limits.