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Crash Course 2: Philosophy., 12a. What is God Like? Part 1/2.

12a. What is God Like? Part 1/2.

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● Hank's Intro (00:08) We've spent quite a bit of time looking at arguments for god's existence, but we haven't said much yet about this god. Like, what's he like? Is he a he? Is he, like, strictly Marvel Superheroes or is he more of a DC guy? Does he prefer his salsa with or without cilantro? I like corn. Who's his favorite crystal gem from Steven Universe? I guess those kinds of questions would only apply to a heavily personalized and anthropomorphic god. But the traditional picture of god - the one accepted and even assumed throughout Judeo-Christian tradition up into modern times - is what we might call an Omni-God, possessing particular divine attributes, the characteristics believed to be held by god.

Now let's pause for a moment to acknowledge that this discussion is of one particular god: the one that stars in Jewish, Christian, and Muslim scriptures. Of course, lots of people believe in lots of other gods, and they all have attributes of their own. We're focusing on this god because he's the one all of the philosopher's we've been studying were talking about. He's the one they believed or didn't believe in. Philosophers like Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, who were themselves influenced by the writings of Plato and Aristotle, came up with a general set of divine attributes that are still widely held among today's theists. And in this view god is omniscient, which means he knows everything that can be known, and he's also omnipotent, or all-powerful. He's been said to be omnibenevolent, or possessing perfect goodness, and he's omnitemporal and omnipresent, meaning he exists at all places and all times at once. Now, it's worth noting that none of these attributes is actually mentioned in the bible, but philosophers like Aquinas reasoned that they must be the case if god is perfect, and these philosophers took it as given that he is. The problem is a close investigation of these attributes reveals some rather tricky little puzzles - no, I take that back. Uh, they are really, really big puzzles.

● Music Intro (01:52)

● Body: Divine Attributes and Quandaries (02:02)

"Can god created a rock so heavy he can't lift it?" is just one of an infinite number of unanswerable questions that can be asked about god, like:

"If god is omnipotent, he has to be able to create something so heavy he can't lift it. Otherwise, his inability to create it would mean that there's at least one thing he couldn't do." But then he wouldn't omnipotent, because if he were truly all powerful, he'd be able to lift anything. Quandaries like this come up all the time when you consider the divine attributes, and some of the questions that arise are not only about god but also about us.

For instance, if god knows everything, then he also knows the future, right? Which makes sense if he's also omnitemporal because that would mean that he's already in the future, and also in the past, and don't forget the present! ● Body: Free Will (02:43)

But many theists also believe that god gave us free will, so how can we be free if god already knows what we're going to do? In that case, are we really free, or is freedom just an illusion he created for us to make us feel like we're in control? What we're seeing here is that, at least on the surface, god's traditional divine attributes are internally inconsistent - meaning, they can't all be true at the same time. And what do you do if you hold inconsistent beliefs? Well, if you're being philosophically rational, you either give some of them up, or you figure out a way to understand them that makes them consistent. This is what a theist who believes in the omni god has to do.

Let's think about the contradiction that arises from believing the following propositions: 1) god is omniscient

2) humans have free will

Is there any way to resolve this contridiction, or do we have to surrender one of those beliefs?

● Body: Knowledge, Causation, and Pecan Pie (03:29)

One possible response is to say that knowledge and causation aren't the same thing. So god might know that we're going to do something, without actually causing us to do it. This actually makes sense if you think about it. Imagine a person standing on a cliff looking down at a train track that curves around a bend. From her vantage point, the onlooker can see that just on the other side of the bend, a person is stuck on the track as the train approaches. Too far away to do anything, the onlooker knows the accident will happen before it does, but the fact that she knows it will happen doesn't mean that she caused it to happen. To use a less gruesome example, if god knew you were going to eat an entire pecan pie by yourself over the course of a lonely weekend, that doesn't mean he caused you to do it. That was all on you.

But wait. If god is omniscient, then he can't be wrong, can he? Because if he was ever wrong, then there was something he didn't know. So if god knew you were going to eat the whole pie, then you couldn't not eat the pie because if you decided not to at the last minute, then you would have just proven god wrong, thereby single handedly stripping him of his divine omniscience. Good job!

So the knowledge and power of god are, to say the least, philosophically perplexing.

● Body: Can God Sin? (04:34)

Now let's consider another question about god's personal skillset: can god sin? If he's omnipotent, it would seem that he can, because he can do anything, but if he's omnibenevolent, or inherently good, then it would seem that he can't. This doctrine, which says that god can't sin, is known as divine impeccability. But if god is impeccable and incapable of sin, then doesn't that mean that he is not omnipotent? After all, I can sin - easily! I mean, give me five minutes, I could probably break like two or three commandments. Like the ones about coveting stuff, not the murdery ones.

Still, it's seems kind of weird to think that I can do something that god can't. Some people try to solve this particular puzzle by saying that sin is necessarily a failure, so therefore a perfet being can't do it. Others say that even though god might do something that would be a sin if a human did it, the idea of 'sin' simply doesn't apply to god. Perhaps because given his omnibenevolence, everything that god does is inherently good.

Now, many philosophers find this solution troubling because it kind of makes god's goodness vacuous. After all, it basically means that saying "god did a thing" would be the same thing as saying "god did a good thing" because, ipso facto, anything god does is good. And if that's the case, then his goodness doesn't have any real meaning. Yet another contradiction presents itself there in the belief that the omni god is also a personal god. Many people find it difficult to suppose that god could be omnitemporal and omniscient, yet still have a personal relationship with his creatures.

It's hard to understand how god could relate to us or feel the way we feel if he doesn't experience time as we do. If he already knows what's going to happen, how could he ever be surprised or change his mind? And if god is omnitemporal, is it even possible that he could be moved to respond to prayers.

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12a. What is God Like? Part 1/2. 12a. Wie ist Gott? Teil 1/2. 12a. ¿Cómo es Dios? Parte 1/2. 12a. 하나님은 어떤 분이신가? 1/2부. 12a. Hoe is God? Deel 1/2. 12a. Jaki jest Bóg? Część 1/2. 12a. Como é que Deus é? Parte 1/2. 12a. На кого похож Бог? Часть 1/2. 12a. Яким є Бог? Частина 1/2. 12a. 上帝是什么样的?第 1/2 部分。

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● Hank's Intro (00:08) We've spent quite a bit of time looking at arguments for god's existence, but we haven't said much yet about this god. Like, what's he like? Is he a he? Is he, like, strictly Marvel Superheroes or is he more of a DC guy? Does he prefer his salsa with or without cilantro? I like corn. Who's his favorite crystal gem from Steven Universe? 他在史蒂文宇宙中最喜欢的水晶宝石是谁? I guess those kinds of questions would only apply to a heavily personalized and anthropomorphic god. 我猜这些问题只适用于一个高度个性化和拟人化的神。 But the traditional picture of god - the one accepted and even assumed throughout Judeo-Christian tradition up into modern times - is what we might call an Omni-God, possessing particular divine attributes, the characteristics believed to be held by god. 但是传统观念中的上帝——在犹太教基督教传统中一直被接受甚至被假定到现代——是我们可能称之为一个全能上帝的样貌,具有特定的神性属性,相信上帝具有的特征。

Now let's pause for a moment to acknowledge that this discussion is of one particular god: the one that stars in Jewish, Christian, and Muslim scriptures. 现在让我们暂停一下,来承认这个讨论是关于一个特定的神:犹太教、基督教和伊斯兰教经文中出现的那位。 Of course, lots of people believe in lots of other gods, and they all have attributes of their own. 当然,许多人相信许多其他的神,它们都有各自的属性。 We're focusing on this god because he's the one all of the philosopher's we've been studying were talking about. 我们重点关注这位神,是因为这位神是我们所学习的所有哲学家都在谈论的那位。 He's the one they believed or didn't believe in. Philosophers like Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, who were themselves influenced by the writings of Plato and Aristotle, came up with a general set of divine attributes that are still widely held among today's theists. 诸如奥古斯丁和托马斯阿奎纳等哲学家受到柏拉图和亚里士多德著作的影响,提出了一组至今仍被当今的信仰者广泛接受的神圣属性。 And in this view god is omniscient, which means he knows everything that can be known, and he's also omnipotent, or all-powerful. 在这种观点中,上帝是全知的,意味着他知道一切可以被知道的事物,他也是全能的,或者说是全能的。 He's been said to be omnibenevolent, or possessing perfect goodness, and he's omnitemporal and omnipresent, meaning he exists at all places and all times at once. 人们说他是全善的,拥有完美的善良,他是全时的和全空间的,意味着他同时存在于所有地方和所有时间。 Now, it's worth noting that none of these attributes is actually mentioned in the bible, but philosophers like Aquinas reasoned that they must be the case if god is perfect, and these philosophers took it as given that he is. 现在值得注意的是,这些属性中实际上没有任何一项在圣经中被提及,但像阿奎那这样的哲学家推理认为,如果上帝是完美的,那么这些属性一定存在,而这些哲学家认为这是理所当然的。 The problem is a close investigation of these attributes reveals some rather tricky little puzzles - no, I take that back. 问题在于仔细研究这些属性揭示了一些相当棘手的难题 - 不,我收回了。 Uh, they are really, really big puzzles. 嗯,这些问题真的非常复杂。

● Music Intro (01:52)

● Body: Divine Attributes and Quandaries (02:02) ● 主体:神圣属性和困惑(02:02)

"Can god created a rock so heavy he can't lift it?" "神能否创造一块他自己举不起的巨石?" is just one of an infinite number of unanswerable questions that can be asked about god, like: 只是关于神无法回答的无数问题之一,比如:

"If god is omnipotent, he has to be able to create something so heavy he can't lift it. Otherwise, his inability to create it would mean that there's at least one thing he couldn't do." But then he wouldn't omnipotent, because if he were truly all powerful, he'd be able to lift anything. Quandaries like this come up all the time when you consider the divine attributes, and some of the questions that arise are not only about god but also about us.

For instance, if god knows everything, then he also knows the future, right? Which makes sense if he's also omnitemporal because that would mean that he's already in the future, and also in the past, and don't forget the present! ● Body: Free Will (02:43)

But many theists also believe that god gave us free will, so how can we be free if god already knows what we're going to do? In that case, are we really free, or is freedom just an illusion he created for us to make us feel like we're in control? What we're seeing here is that, at least on the surface, god's traditional divine attributes are internally inconsistent - meaning, they can't all be true at the same time. 我们在这里看到的是,至少表面上,上帝传统的神性属性在内部是不一致的 - 意味着它们不能同时全部成立。 And what do you do if you hold inconsistent beliefs? 如果你持有矛盾的信仰,你该怎么办? Well, if you're being philosophically rational, you either give some of them up, or you figure out a way to understand them that makes them consistent. 嗯,如果你在哲学上理性,你要么放弃其中一些,要么找到一种理解它们的方法,使它们保持一致。 This is what a theist who believes in the omni god has to do. 这是一个相信全能上帝存在的有神论者必须做的事情。

Let's think about the contradiction that arises from believing the following propositions: 让我们思考从相信以下命题中产生的矛盾: 1) god is omniscient 1) 上帝全知全能

2) humans have free will

Is there any way to resolve this contridiction, or do we have to surrender one of those beliefs? 有没有办法解决这个矛盾,或者我们必须放弃其中一个信念?

● Body: Knowledge, Causation, and Pecan Pie (03:29) ● 主体:知识,因果关系和山核桃派(03:29)

One possible response is to say that knowledge and causation aren't the same thing. 一个可能的回应是说知识和因果关系并不是同一回事。 So god might know that we're going to do something, without actually causing us to do it. This actually makes sense if you think about it. Imagine a person standing on a cliff looking down at a train track that curves around a bend. Imagínese a una persona de pie en un acantilado mirando hacia abajo a una vía de tren que se curva en una curva. 想象一个人站在悬崖上俯视一条环绕弯道的火车轨道。 From her vantage point, the onlooker can see that just on the other side of the bend, a person is stuck on the track as the train approaches. 从她的角度来看,旁观者可以看到在弯道的另一侧,一个人被困在轨道上,火车正在靠近。 Too far away to do anything, the onlooker knows the accident will happen before it does, but the fact that she knows it will happen doesn't mean that she caused it to happen. 旁观者无法做任何事情,但知道事故将在发生之前发生,但她知道事故将会发生并不意味着她导致了事故的发生。 To use a less gruesome example, if god knew you were going to eat an entire pecan pie by yourself over the course of a lonely weekend, that doesn't mean he caused you to do it. 举个不那么可怕的例子,如果上帝知道你在一个孤独的周末里会独自吃掉一整个山核桃派,这并不意味着他让你这么做。 That was all on you. 那完全是你自己的选择。

But wait. 但请等一下。 If god is omniscient, then he can't be wrong, can he? 如果上帝是全知的,那他就不可能会错,对吗? Because if he was ever wrong, then there was something he didn't know. 因为如果他曾经错过,那就意味着有些事情他并不知道。 So if god knew you were going to eat the whole pie, then  you couldn't not eat the pie because if you decided not to at the last minute, then you would have just proven god wrong, thereby single handedly stripping him of his divine omniscience. Así que si dios sabía que te ibas a comer todo el pastel, entonces no podías no comértelo porque si decidías no hacerlo en el último momento, habrías demostrado que dios estaba equivocado, despojándole así de su omnisciencia divina. 所以如果上帝知道你会吃掉整个馅饼,那你就无法不吃馅饼,因为如果你在最后一刻决定不吃,那你就只是在证明上帝错了,从而独手剥夺了他的神圣全知。 Good job!

So the knowledge and power of god are, to say the least, philosophically perplexing. 上帝的知识和力量,可以说至少在哲学上是令人困惑的。

● Body: Can God Sin? ● 本体:上帝能犯罪吗? (04:34) (04:34)

Now let's consider another question about god's personal skillset: can god sin? If he's omnipotent, it would seem that he can, because he can do anything, but if he's omnibenevolent, or inherently good, then it would seem that he can't. This doctrine, which says that god can't sin, is known as divine impeccability. But if god is impeccable and incapable of sin, then doesn't that mean that he is not omnipotent? After all, I can sin - easily! I mean, give me five minutes, I could probably break like two or three commandments. Like the ones about coveting stuff, not the murdery ones. 比如那些涉及贪欲的事情,而不是杀人的事情。

Still, it's seems kind of weird to think that I can do something that god can't. 但是,想到我可以做一些上帝无法做到的事情,似乎有点奇怪。 Some people try to solve this particular puzzle by saying that sin is necessarily a failure, so therefore a perfet being can't do it. 有些人试图解决这个特殊的难题,他们说罪恶必然是一种失败,所以一个完美的存在不能做到。 Others say that even though god might do something that would be a sin if a human did it, the idea of 'sin' simply doesn't apply to god. Perhaps because given his omnibenevolence, everything that god does is inherently good.

Now, many philosophers find this solution troubling because it kind of makes god's goodness vacuous. After all, it basically means that saying "god did a thing" would be the same thing as saying "god did a good thing" because, ipso facto, anything god does is good. 归根结底,这基本意味着说“上帝做了一件事”和说“上帝做了一件好事”是一回事,因为从根本上讲,上帝所做的任何事情都是好的。 And if that's the case, then his goodness doesn't have any real meaning. 而且如果是这样的话,那么他的善良就没有任何实际意义。 Yet another contradiction presents itself there in the belief that the omni god is also a personal god. 然而,另一个矛盾在这里表现出来了,即全能之神也是一位个性之神的信仰。 Many people find it difficult to suppose that god could be omnitemporal and omniscient, yet still have a personal relationship with his creatures. 许多人发现很难想象上帝既可以是全时的又可以是全知的,但仍然能与他的创造物保持个人关系。

It's hard to understand how god could relate to us or feel the way we feel if he doesn't experience time as we do. 很难理解如果上帝不像我们一样经历时间,他是如何与我们有关系或感受我们的感情的。 If he already knows what's going to happen, how could he ever be surprised or change his mind? 如果他已经知道将会发生什么,他怎么会感到惊讶或改变主意呢? And if god is omnitemporal, is it even possible that he could be moved to respond to prayers. 如果上帝是全时的,他会被感动而回应祈祷吗。