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English LingQ 2.0 Podcast, Learn English Podcast #42: Improving Pronunciation with AI-Human Technology (2)

Learn English Podcast #42: Improving Pronunciation with AI-Human Technology (2)

bit, but if you don't wanna get the calories, I totally understand.

So I tell 'em to touch the tip, pull it back and then with your mouth, do

this weird motion where you tuck the bottom lip, cuz it's gonna force it.

And I that's one of the, the hardest ones for, for Japanese people to get.

The second one is the TH the TH sound with like "the", because

again, we have that curling of the tongue and it vibrates through.

So they're always going to do the air through the teeth and they're going suck.

And I say, okay, the easiest way is we just put that

tongue out a little bit more.

I say, it's not gonna be perfect, but a few times we practice

it, it's gonna come through.

So those are two of the hard-hitting ones except for, oh.

And then the last one would be B and V.

B and V.

Okay.

Yeah.

So like bet and vet.

And, and again, like, these are just like little tiny tips to help people, but it's

very easy once, you know it, cuz bet all you have to do is just, uh, tuck both

of the lips as in "bet" and overdo it.

That's why I always tell my students and for the V sound have your bottom

lip to tuck it under the teeth "vet".

And that's all it is.

And people, when I, when I teach 'em that within a few lessons, maybe one or two,

their B and V kind of just become normal.

Fantastic.

Wow.

Um, I find, I find too, I don't know if you found this in Japan.

Those are like the technical issues with pronunciation, but a big thing I found

was the kind of social or let's call it like personal, like confidence issue.

Yeah.

You know, because as you say, you know, you need to stick your tongue

out to make that proper TH sound and a hundred not used to doing that.

That's a little silly.

Maybe you might, you don't wanna look odd or like, you know, definitely found that,

uh, in Japan, a country where people are very, you know, maybe not, they're not,

so, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

Extroverted.

Outgoing.

Generally...

outgoing.

Yeah.

That's a better word.

Outgoing.

Yeah.

Generally speaking of course.

Right.

But, um...

hundred percent.

Yeah, I found that too, for sure.

Have you had any...

how long has Lingo Mii been, been up and running now actually?

Yeah, we've been, uh, I think next month is gonna be about a year.

Oh, wow.

So super fresh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're fresh.

We actually just launched our, our MVP in May, but then right now we're actually

restructuring it because we wanted to really add in that teacher screen.

So we're gonna have everything finalized and finished by September

I think so that we can relaunch it.

Okay.

Yeah.

And as you mentioned, it's a system for, uh, teachers and for students,

are there any kind of reviews or feedback that you've had so far that

you've been especially happy to hear?

Actually, yeah, there there's a couple, um, we, we instantly have feedback from

our teachers and they love the idea of it and they want to implement it.

And they really see this beneficiary for speaking.

Cause again, it hits on that confidence thing.

And I I've dealt with this a lot where people didn't wanna make

these weird mouth movements, but I, I tell 'em just do it for a week.

Go do it by yourself, go practice with the app.

And then once they do, they get over that fear, cuz then it goes away.

Cause you don't have to do it so big.

And then they have more confidence in speaking or asking me even questions.

Cause the, the biggest problem for the teacher's side they're like I've

had people who have a 900 TOEIC but they can't introduce themselves.

I said, yeah, I've been there too.

And that's the problem.

They know the material, but they don't feel confident in telling me it.

So for the teacher side, fantastic.

Cuz they love all the implementations and everything.

And for the student side, the biggest thing that they, they wanted is

they wanted instant translation.

So what we did is we took that note and then, uh, we also took um, a

look at the market and saw how we can actually help both fields more.

So we built an instant translation that can instantly read.

So we have that up actually for our web edition, where people can just type

in and they instantly get fed their information and scoring, but then we're

also fixing and we're creating that right now is basically a walkie talkie.

So say that you're in a classroom with like five people and you have your

homework or your assignment from the teacher, cuz it's uploaded, and then

you go, man, I really want to practice you can hit that person up and then

you guys can practice the conversation together instead of the AI so that

you guys can do the walkie-talkie.

Yeah.

So we have that because we all know schedules, no matter

what language we learn...

i, I remember when I was learning Japanese and I was like, I have no one to practice

with, like, and I have no feedback.

So it just, it just killed me.

So, and I would always be at home or I'd always be at.

So I didn't have that time.

So this is kind of built for those people who want to have that extra

study who want to have that extra thing.

And how is your Japanese?

Did you get, are you still it's getting with it?

Are you doing it still yeah?

It's still good.

Uh, so like for, sometimes in our meetings we speak English,

but then I have to switch.

And then especially when I, when I was in Tokyo for about two months, I was

there from April to May, the end of may.

And I was going to so many networking events and they were like, oh, you

have to pitch in, uh, Japanese.

I was like, uh, okay, like, we'll give this a try, no problem.

So, and like for business side, it really like scaled up.

But like my casual is still pretty good.

I can get by.

Let's put it that way.

If I, if I need to go have a good conversation, make some people laugh.

That's not a problem.

Oh, excellent.

That's a great position to be in.

Nice.

yeah.

So, um, what's in in store for Lingo Mii?

As you said, you're about to celebrate your kind of one year anniversary.

Yeah.

So right now we're actually, um, just getting revamped up.

So right now we have, uh, three schools in talking.

Some of 'em are actually kind of big players of that...

they want to get in and try our products.

So we gave them our web edition for a month to try out.

Then next we're gonna start, uh, rolling out when our updates come out so that

they can use it so we can get our pilot.

So when our pilot comes in, we get our test feedback, then we can jump

up and start selling even more.

But right now we have three universities that are in, uh, sorry, one university and

two language schools that are interested.

Excellent.

Wow.

So lots going on.

Wow.

Yeah, just busy, busy, busy.

excellent.

Well, Alexander, thank you so much for chatting with me.

I'll pop the link of course to Lingo Mii in the description.

Okay.

Um, yeah.

I hope the weather the cools down for you there in Colorado,

and your dogs are not too hot.

I know I'm surprised when you were talking about how Canada was so hot.

I was like, man, I thought it'd been a little bit colder right now.

Yeah, it's not usually, I mean, last year we had the whole heat dome thing.

If you were in LA, you, you must have had it too.

Got to 41 degrees here.

I was in, I was a little bit south.

So at that time I was always, I was always at the beach, but, uh...

yeah.

I don't know if this is the norm now.

I hope not, but, um...

Man I hope not.

Yeah.

Well, we'll see.

Hopefully it gets better.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fingers crossed.

Well, uh, have a great rest of your day Alexander and thank

you so, so much for joining me.

Yeah.

Thank you too.

And thanks for having me on and hope everything gets blessed

with you in your career.

Cheers.

Thank you.

Take care.

No problem.

Bye

Bye

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bit, but if you don't wanna get the calories, I totally understand. |||||||||||get it 少しですが、カロリーを取りたくないのなら、私は完全に理解しています. ama kalori almak istemiyorsanız, sizi anlarım. 有点,但如果你不想获得卡路里,我完全理解。

So I tell 'em to touch the tip, pull it back and then with your mouth, do |||||||le bout||||||||| だから私は彼らに先端に触れて、それを引き戻し、そしてあなたの口で行うように言います Ben de onlara ucuna dokunmalarını, geri çekmelerini ve sonra ağzınızla 所以我告诉他们触摸尖端,将其拉回,然后用你的嘴,做

this weird motion where you tuck the bottom lip, cuz it's gonna force it. |||||rentrer|||||||| |||||metes|||||||| |||||enfiar||||porque|||| 下唇を押し込むこの奇妙な動き。 Alt dudağını sıkıştırdığın şu garip hareket, çünkü zorlayacak. 这个奇怪的动作,你把下唇塞进去,因为它会用力。

And I that's one of the, the hardest ones for, for Japanese people to get. And I that's one of the, the hardest ones for, for Japanese people to get. そして私は、日本人にとって、最も手に入れるのが難しいものの一つです。

The second one is the TH the TH sound with like "the", because ||||||||TH phoneme|||| 2 つ目は TH です。

again, we have that curling of the tongue and it vibrates through. ||||||||||вибрация| ||||Zungenschnalzen||||||vibriert| ||||curvatura de la||||||vibra| 繰り返しになりますが、舌が丸まっていて、振動しています。

So they're always going to do the air through the teeth and they're going suck. |they are||||||||||||| そのため、彼らは常に歯から空気を吸い込み、吸うようになります。

And I say, okay, the easiest way is we just put that そして、私は言います、わかりました、最も簡単な方法は、

tongue out a little bit more.

I say, it's not gonna be perfect, but a few times we practice

it, it's gonna come through.

So those are two of the hard-hitting ones except for, oh.

And then the last one would be B and V. そして最後はBとV。

B and V. B と V.

Okay.

Yeah.

So like bet and vet. ||||Wette 賭けと獣医のように。

And, and again, like, these are just like little tiny tips to help people, but it's 繰り返しになりますが、これらは人々を助けるための小さな小さなヒントのようなものですが、

very easy once, you know it, cuz bet all you have to do is just, uh, tuck both ||||||||||||||||tuck| ||||||||||||||||meter|

of the lips as in "bet" and overdo it. der|||||||übertreiben| |||||||exagerar| 「賭け」のように唇を動かし、やり過ぎます。

That's why I always tell my students and for the V sound have your bottom だから私はいつも生徒たちに言っているのです。

lip to tuck it under the teeth "vet". 唇を歯の下に押し込みます「獣医」。

And that's all it is. そしてそれだけです。

And people, when I, when I teach 'em that within a few lessons, maybe one or two, そして、人々は、私が彼らにそれを教えたとき、数回のレッスンで、おそらく1回か2回、

their B and V kind of just become normal.

Fantastic.

Wow.

Um, I find, I find too, I don't know if you found this in Japan.

Those are like the technical issues with pronunciation, but a big thing I found

was the kind of social or let's call it like personal, like confidence issue. |||||||||||||questão 一種の社交的、または個人的な、自信の問題と呼びましょう。

Yeah.

You know, because as you say, you know, you need to stick your tongue あなたが言うように、あなたが知っているので、あなたは舌を突き刺す必要があります

out to make that proper TH sound and a hundred not used to doing that. その適切なTHサウンドを作成するためにアウトし、それを行うことに慣れていない百。

That's a little silly. |||um pouco bobo それは少しばかげています。

Maybe you might, you don't wanna look odd or like, you know, definitely found that, 奇妙に見られたくないかもしれません

uh, in Japan, a country where people are very, you know, maybe not, they're not,

so, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? 私が探している単語は何ですか?

Extroverted. Экстравертированный Extrovertiert 外向的。

Outgoing. Ausgehend 発信。

Generally... 一般的...

outgoing. 発信。

Yeah.

That's a better word.

Outgoing.

Yeah.

Generally speaking of course.

Right.

But, um...

hundred percent.

Yeah, I found that too, for sure.

Have you had any...

how long has Lingo Mii been, been up and running now actually? ¿cuánto tiempo lleva funcionando Lingo Mii?

Yeah, we've been, uh, I think next month is gonna be about a year. 来月で約1年になると思います。

Oh, wow.

So super fresh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're fresh. だから私たちは新鮮です。

We actually just launched our, our MVP in May, but then right now we're actually ||||||минимально жизнеспособный продукт|||||||| ||||||produit minimum viable|||||||| ||||||MVP|||||||| ||||||MVP||||||||

restructuring it because we wanted to really add in that teacher screen. Umstrukturierung|||||||||||

So we're gonna have everything finalized and finished by September |||||finalisiert|||| |||||finalizado|||| 9月までにすべてを確定して完成させる予定です

I think so that we can relaunch it. 再開できればと思います。

Okay.

Yeah.

And as you mentioned, it's a system for, uh, teachers and for students, おっしゃったように、これは教師と生徒のためのシステムです。

are there any kind of reviews or feedback that you've had so far that ¿hay algún tipo de críticas o comentarios que haya recibido hasta ahora que これまでに受けたレビューやフィードバックはありますか

you've been especially happy to hear? 聞いて特にうれしかったですか?

Actually, yeah, there there's a couple, um, we, we instantly have feedback from 実際、ええ、いくつかあります、ええと、私たちは、すぐにフィードバックを持っています

our teachers and they love the idea of it and they want to implement it. nos|||||||||||||| 私たちの教師と彼らはそのアイデアを気に入っており、それを実行したいと考えています。

And they really see this beneficiary for speaking. |||||Begünstigte|| |||||beneficiario de la||

Cause again, it hits on that confidence thing. Porque de nuevo, da en el clavo con eso de la confianza. 繰り返しになりますが、それはその自信につながります。

And I I've dealt with this a lot where people didn't wanna make |||he tratado||||||||| そして、私は人々が作りたくないところでこれをたくさん扱ってきました

these weird mouth movements, but I, I tell 'em just do it for a week. これらの奇妙な口の動きですが、私は、彼らに1週間だけやるように言います.

Go do it by yourself, go practice with the app. 自分でやって、アプリで練習してください。

And then once they do, they get over that fear, cuz then it goes away. Y una vez que lo hacen, superan ese miedo, porque entonces desaparece. そして、一度そうすると、彼らはその恐怖を乗り越えます。

Cause you don't have to do it so big. そんなに大きくしなくていいから。

And then they have more confidence in speaking or asking me even questions. そして、彼らは私に話したり、質問したりすることに自信を持っています.

Cause the, the biggest problem for the teacher's side they're like I've |||||||Lehrers|||| 原因は、教師側の最大の問題は、彼らが私と同じように

had people who have a 900 TOEIC but they can't introduce themselves. TOEIC900点なのに自己紹介ができない人。

I said, yeah, I've been there too. Dije, sí, yo también he pasado por eso. 私は言った、ええ、私もそこにいました。

And that's the problem. そして、それが問題です。

They know the material, but they don't feel confident in telling me it. 彼らは内容を知っていますが、私にそれを話す自信がありません。

So for the teacher side, fantastic. ですから、教師側にとっては素晴らしいことです。

Cuz they love all the implementations and everything. |||||implémentations|| |||||Implementierungen|| |||||implementaciones||

And for the student side, the biggest thing that they, they wanted is そして、学生側にとって、彼らが望んでいた最大のことは

they wanted instant translation. 彼らは即時翻訳を望んでいました。

So what we did is we took that note and then, uh, we also took um, a それで、私たちがしたことは、そのメモを取って、それから、ええと、

look at the market and saw how we can actually help both fields more. 市場を見て、私たちが実際に両方の分野をもっと助けることができる方法を見ました.

So we built an instant translation that can instantly read. そこで、すぐに読めるインスタント翻訳を構築しました。

So we have that up actually for our web edition, where people can just type |||||||||Ausgabe||||| |||||||||edición web||||| だから私たちはウェブ版のためにそれを実際に持っています。

in and they instantly get fed their information and scoring, but then we're すぐに情報とスコアリングが提供されますが、その後は

also fixing and we're creating that right now is basically a walkie talkie. ||||||||||||Walkie-Talkie |||||||||||walkie talkie|walkie talkie

So say that you're in a classroom with like five people and you have your

homework or your assignment from the teacher, cuz it's uploaded, and then

you go, man, I really want to practice you can hit that person up and then

you guys can practice the conversation together instead of the AI so that

you guys can do the walkie-talkie.

Yeah.

So we have that because we all know schedules, no matter ||||||||Zeitpläne||

what language we learn...

i, I remember when I was learning Japanese and I was like, I have no one to practice

with, like, and I have no feedback.

So it just, it just killed me.

So, and I would always be at home or I'd always be at.

So I didn't have that time.

So this is kind of built for those people who want to have that extra

study who want to have that extra thing.

And how is your Japanese?

Did you get, are you still it's getting with it?

Are you doing it still yeah?

It's still good.

Uh, so like for, sometimes in our meetings we speak English,

but then I have to switch.

And then especially when I, when I was in Tokyo for about two months, I was

there from April to May, the end of may.

And I was going to so many networking events and they were like, oh, you |||||||Netzwerkveranstaltungen|||||||

have to pitch in, uh, Japanese. ||contribuir|||

I was like, uh, okay, like, we'll give this a try, no problem.

So, and like for business side, it really like scaled up. |||||||||skaliert| |||||||||aumentou|

But like my casual is still pretty good. |||locker||||

I can get by.

Let's put it that way.

If I, if I need to go have a good conversation, make some people laugh.

That's not a problem.

Oh, excellent.

That's a great position to be in.

Nice.

yeah.

So, um, what's in in store for Lingo Mii?

As you said, you're about to celebrate your kind of one year anniversary.

Yeah.

So right now we're actually, um, just getting revamped up. ||||||||neu gestaltet| ||||||||renovados| ||||||||reformulados| 所以現在我們實際上,嗯,剛剛進行了改造。

So right now we have, uh, three schools in talking.

Some of 'em are actually kind of big players of that...

they want to get in and try our products.

So we gave them our web edition for a month to try out.

Then next we're gonna start, uh, rolling out when our updates come out so that

they can use it so we can get our pilot.

So when our pilot comes in, we get our test feedback, then we can jump

up and start selling even more.

But right now we have three universities that are in, uh, sorry, one university and

two language schools that are interested.

Excellent.

Wow.

So lots going on.

Wow.

Yeah, just busy, busy, busy.

excellent.

Well, Alexander, thank you so much for chatting with me.

I'll pop the link of course to Lingo Mii in the description.

Okay.

Um, yeah.

I hope the weather the cools down for you there in Colorado, |||||sich abkühlt||||||

and your dogs are not too hot.

I know I'm surprised when you were talking about how Canada was so hot.

I was like, man, I thought it'd been a little bit colder right now.

Yeah, it's not usually, I mean, last year we had the whole heat dome thing. |||||||||||whole||| 是的,這並不常見,我的意思是,去年我們有整個熱穹頂。

If you were in LA, you, you must have had it too. |||||||deveria ter||||

Got to 41 degrees here.

I was in, I was a little bit south.

So at that time I was always, I was always at the beach, but, uh...

yeah.

I don't know if this is the norm now.

I hope not, but, um...

Man I hope not.

Yeah.

Well, we'll see.

Hopefully it gets better.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fingers crossed.

Well, uh, have a great rest of your day Alexander and thank

you so, so much for joining me.

Yeah.

Thank you too.

And thanks for having me on and hope everything gets blessed ||||||||||blessed

with you in your career.

Cheers.

Thank you.

Take care. cuídate|

No problem.

Bye

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