思辨 教育 ： 姚仁祿 (Eric Yao) at TEDxTaipei 2012 Critical Thinking Education: Eric Yao at TEDxTaipei 2012

好 今天 我 跟 大家 講的 題目 是 教育 2.0 good|today|I|with|everyone|talked about|topic|is|education Well, today the topic I want to discuss with everyone is Education 2.0.

我 想要 集中 談 的 一個 題目 是 台灣 的 高等教育 何去何從 I|want|to focus|to discuss|possessive particle|one|topic|is|Taiwan|possessive particle|higher education|where it is headed I want to focus on the topic of the future of higher education in Taiwan.

那 第一個 我要 分享 的 是 對 著 學生 跟 家長 分享 then|first|I want to|share|possessive particle|is|towards|continuous aspect particle|students|and|parents|share The first thing I want to share is directed towards students and parents.

第二個 是 要 對 著 政府 分享 second|is|to|to|with|government|share The second is to share with the government.

第三個 其實 是 對 著 學校 分享 third|actually|is|to|at|school|share The third one is actually about sharing with the school.

那 今天 的 這個 三個 題目 呢 then|today|possessive particle|this|three|questions|question particle So today's three topics are as follows.

先 說 學 思考 好 了 first|to speak|study|think|well|past tense marker Let's first talk about learning and thinking.

第一個 要 跟 各位 談 的 學 思考 是 這樣子 first|to|with|everyone|discuss|possessive particle|learning|thinking|is|like this The first thing I want to discuss with you about learning and thinking is this.

最近 我們 的 社會 聚焦 高等教育 的 畢業生 失業 ,低薪 ,淪為 台勞 等等 recently|we|possessive particle|society|focuses on|higher education|possessive particle|graduates|unemployment|low salary|reduced to|laborers in Taiwan|etc Recently, our society has been focusing on the unemployment of higher education graduates, low salaries, and becoming part of the labor force in Taiwan, etc.

那麼 一時之間 強化 技職 教育 好像 變成 了 解決 失業 的 偏方 then|all of a sudden|strengthen|vocational|education|seems|become|past tense marker|solving|unemployment|possessive particle|remedy So, for a moment, strengthening vocational education seems to have become a remedy for unemployment.

其實 我 在 心裡 深深地 認為 actually|I|in|my heart|deeply|believe In fact, I deeply believe in my heart.

過度 聚焦 實用性 的 教育 對 台灣 這個 小島 的 未來 其實 是 非常 有害 的 excessive|focus|practicality|possessive particle|education|towards|Taiwan|this|small island|possessive particle|future|actually|is|very|harmful|particle indicating adjective Overly focusing on practical education is actually very harmful to the future of Taiwan, this small island.

那 什麼 叫 非常 有害 呢 ? that|what|is called|very|harmful|question particle So what does very harmful mean?

我 想 舉 兩個 人 I|want|lift|two|people I would like to give two examples.

它 不算 對話 是 有 一個 人 講 ,另 一個 人 說 it|doesn't count|conversation|is|there is|one|person|speaks|another|one|person|says It's not really a dialogue; one person speaks, and another person responds.

不是 這樣 來 給 各位 分享 not|this way|come|to give|everyone|share It's not like this when sharing with everyone.

這是 愛因斯坦 對 愛迪生 講的 一句 話 this is|Einstein|to|Edison|said|a|sentence This is a statement made by Einstein to Edison.

值得 我們 去 思考 worth|we|to|think It's worth our contemplation.

跟 我們 的 題目 是 很 像 的 with|us|possessive particle|question|is|very|similar|past action particle It's very similar to our topic.

這個 呢 是 愛因斯坦 在 1921 年 this|question particle|is|Einstein|in|year This is Einstein in 1921.

他 聽到 愛迪生 說 念 大學 是 沒有 用 的 He|heard|Edison|said|attending|university|is|not|useful|particle He heard Edison say that going to university is useless.

他 特別 回 了 一個 he|especially|replied|past tense marker|one message He specifically replied to that.

他 說 只 學 實用 事物 的 大學 才 沒有 用 He|said|only|study|practical|things|possessive particle|university|only|has no|use He said that only universities that teach practical things are useless.

他 的 原文 是 這樣 的 he|possessive particle|original text|is|this way|particle indicating past action His original words were like this.

It'snotsoveryimportantforapersontolearnfacts.(學習 既有 資訊 並非 很 重要 ) |learn|already have|facts|not|very|important It's not so very important for a person to learn facts.

Forthathedoesnotreallyneedacollege(那樣的話 ,根本 不 需要 大學 ) |in that case|at all|not|needs|college For that he does not really need a college.

就是 你 如果 只是 要學 那些 ,你 不 需要 一個 大學 it means|you|if|only|want to learn|those|you|not|need|a|university If you just want to learn those, you don't need a college.

He can learn from the books .(因為 只要 看書 就 好 了 ) He|can|learn|from|the|books|because|as long as|reading|then|well|past action marker He can learn from the books.

這句 話 很 重要 this sentence|speech|very|important This sentence is very important.

他 說 教育 的 價值 he|says|education|possessive particle|value He said the value of education.

在 這些 文理學院 裡頭 它 不是 要 去 學習 那些 事實 或者 是 事證 in|these|liberal arts colleges|inside|it|not|going to|to|learn|those|facts|or|is|evidence In these liberal arts colleges, it is not about learning those facts or evidence.

而是 去 訓練 你 的 腦袋 but|to|train|your|possessive particle|brain Rather, it is about training your mind.

能夠 想 一些 你 沒有 辦法 從 書上 學到 的 事情 able to|think|some|you|not|method|from|the book|learned|particle|things To be able to think of things that you cannot learn from books.

書上 表示 是 人家 想過 的 the book|indicates|is|others|thought about|past action particle Books represent what others have thought.

你 要 去 學 一些 you|want|go|learn|some You need to learn some things

別人 沒想過 ,想不到 的 事情 others|never thought about|unexpected|possessive particle|thing that others have not thought of, cannot imagine.

所以 給 學生 的 建議 就是 so|give|students|possessive particle|advice|is So the advice given to students is

上 大學 是 為了 學習 思考 的 能力 不是 為了 取得 學位 attend|university|is|in order to|learning|thinking|possessive particle|ability|not|in order to|obtain|degree that going to university is for learning the ability to think, not just to obtain a degree.

而且 很 重要 的 是 moreover|very|important|possessive particle|is And what is very important is

思考 能力 才 是 成功 的 關鍵 thinking|ability|talent|is|success|possessive particle|key Thinking ability is the key to success.

其他 的 都 不是 運氣 好 更 不是 others|possessive particle|all|are not|luck|good|even more|are not Everything else is not just good luck, and certainly not.

那 第二個 給 學生 的 建議 很 短 ,結束 了 that|second|give|student|possessive particle|suggestion|very|short|ended|past tense marker The second piece of advice for students is very brief, it's over.

我們 接下來 談談 第二個 we|next|talk about|second Next, let's talk about the second one.

大學 法 教育部 應該 鬆手 university|law|Ministry of Education|should|loosen control The university law education department should loosen its grip.

其實 我 根本 不是 教育 專家 actually|I|at all|am not|education|expert Actually, I am not an education expert at all.

但是 我 想 心 有 所 感 所以 提 出來 分享 but|I|want|heart|have|something|feeling|so|bring|out|share But I want to share what I feel in my heart.

今天 9 月 30 號 是 什麼 日子 ? Today|month|day|is|what|day What day is it today, September 30?

她 的 生日 she|possessive particle|birthday It's her birthday.

認識 她 的 人 也許 1/3 know|her|possessive particle|person|maybe Maybe 1/3 of the people who know her.

我 不 知道 I|not|know I don't know.

曾祖父 是 清末 名臣 李鴻章 great-grandfather|is|late Qing Dynasty|famous minister|Li Hongzhang My great-grandfather was the famous minister Li Hongzhang from the late Qing Dynasty.

外曾祖父 是 那個 時候 的 水師 提督 great-grandfather|was|that|time|possessive particle|navy|admiral My maternal great-grandfather was the naval commander at that time.

1920 年 9 月 30 號 是 她 的 生日 year|month|day|is|her|possessive particle|birthday September 30, 1920, is her birthday.

生 在 上海 的 租界 區 天秤座 born|in|Shanghai|possessive particle|concession|area|Libra Born in the Shanghai concession area, she is a Libra.

她 是 誰 ? she|is|who Who is she?

張愛玲 Eileen Chang Eileen Chang

可是 今天 也 是 她 的 忌日 but|today|also|is|she|possessive particle|death anniversary But today is also her death anniversary.

為 什麼 ? why|what Why?

她 不是 死 在 9 月 30 號 She|is not|died|on|month|day Didn't she die on September 30?

1995 年 的 中秋節 year|possessive particle|Mid-Autumn Festival The Mid-Autumn Festival of 1995

75 歲 的 時候 years|possessive particle|when At the age of 75

她 孤單 地 一個 人 死 在 她 洛杉磯 的 家 She|alone|adverbial particle|one|person|died|at|her|Los Angeles|possessive particle|home She died alone in her home in Los Angeles

這個 是 她 生命 的 巧合 this|is|her|life|possessive particle|coincidence This is a coincidence in her life

那 今天 我們 是 9 月 30 號 then|today|we|is|month|day So today is September 30th

這個 是 她 在 異鄉 記 的 手稿 this|is|she|in|foreign land|memory|possessive particle|manuscript This is her manuscript from her time in a foreign land.

那麼 我 就 用 今天 的 這場 講話 來 獻給 她 也 向 她 的 寫作 理想 來 致敬 then|I|will|use|today|possessive particle|this|speech|to|dedicate to|her|also|towards|her|possessive particle|writing|ideal|to|pay tribute So, I will dedicate today's speech to her and pay tribute to her writing ideals.

為什麼 我 特別 提到 寫作 理想 呢 ? why|I|especially|mentioned|writing|ideal|question particle Why do I specifically mention writing ideals?

因為 我 很 喜歡 這句 話 because|I|very|like|this sentence|saying Because I really like this saying.

這個 是 Iowa 的 寫作 營 this|is|Iowa|possessive particle|writing|camp This is the writing camp in Iowa.

它 在 去年 75 週年 慶 的 時候 提 出來 這句 話 it|at|last year|anniversary|celebration|possessive particle|time|proposed|out|this sentence|statement It was mentioned during the 75th anniversary celebration last year.

他 說 當 文字 改變 世界 的 時候 he|said|when|writing|changes|world|possessive particle|time He said that when words change the world,

你 剛好 在 這裡 you|just|at|here you just happen to be here.

那句話 that sentence That statement,

如果 文字 改變 世界 是 作家 的 理想 if|writing|changes|world|is|writer|possessive particle|ideal if words change the world, is the writer's ideal.

那麼 我們 就 要 來 問 then|we|just|will|come|ask Then, we need to ask.

我們 台灣 的 現代 高等教育 理想 到底 是 什麼 ? we|Taiwan|possessive particle|modern|higher education|ideal|exactly|is|what What is the ideal of modern higher education in Taiwan?

主管 的 教育部 ,他 的 任務 到底 是 什麼 ? the person in charge|possessive particle|Ministry of Education|he|possessive particle|task|exactly|is|what What is the mission of the Ministry of Education?

為什麼 我 會 問 這個 問題 ? why|I|will|ask|this|question Why do I ask this question?

就是 mission 是 什麼 ? so|mission|is|what What is the mission?

如果 上 我們 台灣 的 教育部 網站 你 看不到 mission if|on|we|Taiwan|possessive particle|Ministry of Education|website|you|cannot see|mission If you go to the website of the Ministry of Education in Taiwan, you won't see a mission.

你 只 看到 他們 在 做 什麼 事 you|only|see|they|at|doing|what|thing You only see what they are doing.

然後 不得了 而且 還是 隨時 用 news 的 方式 在 update then|incredible|moreover|still|anytime|using|news|possessive particle|way|in|updating And it's quite serious, and they are updating it at any time in the form of news.

可是 我 翻來翻去 我 找不到 教育部 的 mission 是 什麼 but|I|flipping back and forth|I|can't find|Ministry of Education|possessive particle|mission|is|what But I flipped through it and couldn't find out what the mission of the Ministry of Education is.

沒有 mission ,然後 在 做事 no|mission|then|at|working No mission, yet they are doing things.

那 我 弟弟 常常 講 一句 話 then|I|younger brother|often|says|one|sentence My brother often says one thing.

你 很 忙 地 做 錯 一件 事 這個 就 很 麻煩 you|very|busy|adverbial particle|do|wrong|one|thing|this|then|very|troublesome If you are very busy doing something wrong, it can be very troublesome.

所以 西元 387 年 柏拉圖 的 這個 學院 so|AD|year|Plato|possessive particle|this|academy So in the year 387 AD, Plato's academy...

這個 大學 總共 延續 了 九百 多年 在 他 走 了 以後 this|university|in total|lasted|past tense marker|nine hundred|many years|at|he|left|past tense marker|after This university lasted for a total of over nine hundred years after he passed away.

他 當時 的 理想 就是 創造 一個 師生 可以 互相 辯證 思想 的 地方 he|at that time|possessive particle|ideal|was|to create|a|teachers and students|can|mutually|dialectical|thought|possessive particle|place His ideal at that time was to create a place where teachers and students could dialectically exchange ideas.

這樣 的 一個 大學 早就 不 存在 我們 這裡 了 早就 沒有 了 like this|possessive particle|a|university|long ago|not|exist|we|here|past tense marker|long ago|had|past tense marker Such a university has long ceased to exist here.

所以 細讀 台灣 的 大學 法 so|closely read|Taiwan|possessive particle|university|law So we closely read the laws of universities in Taiwan.

只 看到 組織 細節 詳細 著墨 only|see|organization|details|detailed|emphasis We only see detailed descriptions of organizational details.

只 看到 政府 想要 怎樣 管理 大學 而且 方法 很 呆板 only|see|government|wants|how|manage|university|and|method|very|rigid We only see how the government wants to manage universities, and the methods are very rigid.

卻 看不到 面對 未來 一百年 but|cannot see|facing|future|one hundred years Yet we do not see how to face the next hundred years.

我們 不是 說 百年樹人 嗎 ? we|not|say|a person is cultivated over a hundred years|question particle Aren't we saying that it takes a hundred years to cultivate a person?

可是 未來 一百年 我們 國家 教育 的 崇高理想 在 哪裡 ? but|future|one hundred years|our|country|education|possessive particle|noble ideal|at|where But where are the lofty ideals of education for our country in the next hundred years?

每天 都 在 處理 一些 看起來 好像 是 窗戶 破 了 之類 的 小事 every day|all|at|dealing with|some|looks like|seems|is|window|broken|past tense marker|like|possessive particle|small matters Every day we are dealing with small matters that seem like broken windows or the like.

所以 更 看不到 不同 的 大學 可以 有 機會 各領 風騷 ,自由 發揮 所長 的 可能 so|even more|cannot see|different|possessive particle|universities|can|have|opportunities|each field|excelling|freely|utilizing|strengths|possessive particle|possibilities So we see even less the possibility for different universities to have their own unique strengths and to develop freely.

我們 好像 希望 經營 的 大學 是 要 長成 一樣 的 we|seem|hope|operate|possessive particle|university|is|to|grow up to be|the same|possessive particle It seems like we want the universities we manage to grow up the same way.

因為 他 用 同一個 辦法 在 管 because|he|uses|the same|method|to|manage Because he uses the same method to manage.

而且 私校 跟 公立學校 是 用 一樣 的 模式 管理 moreover|private school|and|public school|is|using|the same|possessive particle|model|management Moreover, private schools and public schools are managed using the same model.

更是 不太 合 邏輯 even more|not very|fit|logic This is even less logical.

大學 法 的 第一條 university|law|possessive particle|first article The first article of the university law.

研究 學術 ,培育 人才 ,提升 文化 ,服務 社會 ,促進 國家 發展 為 宗旨 research|academia|cultivate|talent|enhance|culture|serve|society|promote|nation|development|for|purpose The purpose is to research academics, cultivate talent, enhance culture, serve society, and promote national development.

好 他 說 大學 享有 自治 good|he|says|university|enjoys|autonomy Okay, he said that the university enjoys autonomy.

他 也 特別 說 主管 是 教育部 He|also|especially|said|supervisor|is|Ministry of Education He also specifically mentioned that the supervisor is the Ministry of Education.

可是 我 想 做 一件 事 but|I|want|to do|one|thing However, I want to do one thing.

請 各位 特別 注意 第一條 的 第一個 please|everyone|especially|pay attention to|first rule|possessive particle|first Please pay special attention to the first item of the first line.

前面 兩個 字 in front of|two|characters The first two words.

看起來 這 好像 是 mission it looks like|this|seems|is|mission It seems like this is a mission.

這 好像 是 大學 的 mission this|seems|is|university|possessive particle|mission This seems to be the mission of a university.

可是 如果 我 把 大學 這 兩個 字 改成 公司 也 沒有 什麼 不 對 啊 but|if|I|(particle indicating disposal)|university|these|two|characters|change to|company|also|have not|anything|not|wrong|ah But if I change the word 'university' to 'company', there's nothing wrong with that.

我 的 公司 以 研究 學術 ,培育 人才 ,提升 文化 ,服務 社會 ,促進 國家 發展 為 宗旨 I|possessive particle|company|take as|research|academia|cultivate|talent|enhance|culture|serve|society|promote|country|development|as|purpose My company's purpose is to conduct academic research, cultivate talent, enhance culture, serve society, and promote national development.

有 什麼 不 對 呢 ? have|what|not|right|question particle What's wrong with that?

沒有 什麼 不 對 there is not|anything|not|wrong There is nothing wrong.

那 既然 大家 都 可以 用 那 就 不 可以 叫做 definition then|since|everyone|all|can|use|that|then|not|can|be called|definition Since everyone can use it, it cannot be called a definition.

這個 定義 是 錯 的 this|definition|is|wrong|particle This definition is incorrect.

同時 我們 大學 法 第五條 at the same time|we|university|law|Article 5 At the same time, our university law Article 5.

說 大學 應該 定期 地 自我 評鑑 say|university|should|regularly|adverbial particle|self|evaluation States that universities should conduct self-evaluations regularly.

很 好 very|good Very good

可是 第五條 的 後面 說 but|Article 5|possessive particle|behind|says But the end of Article 5 says

教育部 為了 促進 各 大學 的 發展 Ministry of Education|in order to|promote|each|university|possessive particle|development The Ministry of Education aims to promote the development of various universities

他 是 可以 告訴 你 我 要來 評鑑 你 He|is|can|tell|you|I|will come|evaluate|you He can tell you that I am here to evaluate you

所以 評鑑 的 結果 可以 讓 你 可不可以 增加 系所 so|evaluation|possessive particle|result|can|allow|you|whether or not|increase|department So the results of the evaluation can determine whether you can increase departments

可不可以 增加 招收 學生 等等 can or cannot|increase|enroll|students|etc Can we increase the recruitment of students, etc.

那 意思 就是說 第一條 是 沒有 用 的 that|meaning|means|first rule|is|no|use|particle That means the first point is useless.

所以 說 so|say So it is said.

享有 自治權 沒 這回事 enjoy|autonomy|no|such thing There is no such thing as autonomy.

如果 公司法 也 讓 經濟部 享有 如此 不合理 的 權力 if|Company Law|also|allows|Ministry of Economic Affairs|to enjoy|such|unreasonable|possessive particle|power If the Company Act also allows the Ministry of Economic Affairs to have such unreasonable power.

那麼 台灣 的 企業 沒有 一家 可以 成功 then|Taiwan|possessive particle|enterprises|do not have|one|can|succeed Then, there is not a single company in Taiwan that can succeed.

因為 他 告訴 你 評鑑 不及格 你 不能 加人 喔 because|he|told|you|evaluation|failed|you|cannot|add people|oh Because it tells you that if you fail the evaluation, you cannot add people.

然後 薪水 我要 控制 是 多少 喔 then|salary|I want|control|is|how much|oh And I have to control how much the salary is.

那 你 怎麼 開 啊 then|you|how|drive|particle So how can you open it?

你 就 不能 開 啦 you|just|can't|drive|particle indicating a suggestion or reminder You just can't open it.

所以 給 政府 的 建議 要 趕快 修 大學 法 so|give|government|possessive particle|suggestion|should|quickly|amend|university|law So the suggestion to the government is to quickly amend the university law.

而且 教育部 不要 負責 修 moreover|Ministry of Education|does not want|responsible for|repair Moreover, the Ministry of Education should not be responsible for the amendment.

因為 because Because

為 什麼 不 可能 修 ? why|what|not|possible|repair Why is it not possible to amend?

因為 他 說過 because|he|has said Because they have said before.

這個 人 說 的 大概 不是 我 說 的 總是 有點 道理 this|person|said|past tense marker|probably|not|I|said|past tense marker|always|a little|reason What this person said is probably not what I said, but there is always some truth to it.

他 說 he|says He said.

Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them.( 製造 出 問題 的 同一個 腦袋 , 不 可能 解決問題 ) Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them.

那 請 容許 我 說 一個 真實 的 故事 來 譬喻 then|please|allow|I|to say|a|true|possessive particle|story|to|illustrate Then please allow me to tell a true story as an analogy.

這是 一個 在 尚比亞 的 一個 沼澤 的 一些 大象 this is|a|in|Zambia|possessive particle|a|swamp|possessive particle|some|elephants This is a story about some elephants in a swamp in Zambia.

各位 可以 看 得到 everyone|can|see|obtain Everyone can see.

躺 在 地上 那個 大 的 是 一個 母象 lying|on|the ground|that|big|possessive particle|is|a|female elephant The large one lying on the ground is a female elephant.

那個 母象 前面 有 一個 公象 在 用 他 的 前腳 that|female elephant|in front of|has|a|male elephant|is|using|he|possessive particle|front leg In front of that female elephant, there is a male elephant using his front leg.

要 把 牠 抓 起來 是 一個 小 象 want|particle indicating disposal|it (referring to an animal)|catch|up|is|a|small|elephant He is trying to lift up a small elephant.

陷入 泥淖 ,圈內人 通常 沒有 辦法 解決 sink into|quagmire|insider|usually|have no|way|solve It is stuck in the mud, and usually, the people in the circle have no way to solve it.

因為 牠 能 想 的 就是 這樣 because|it|can|think|(possessive particle)|is just|like this Because what it can think of is just this.

牠 越 弄 牠 越 下去 it|the more|mess around|it|the more|goes down The more it struggles, the deeper it goes.

自己 在 泥淖 中 掙扎 只會 精疲力盡 oneself|in|mud pit|within|struggle|will only|exhausted Struggling in the quagmire will only exhaust itself.

很 可憐 very|pitiful Very pitiful.

外力 代表 不同 的 思考 的 模型 external force|represents|different|possessive particle|thinking|possessive particle|model External forces represent different models of thinking.

這些 人 想 了 半天 就 說 these|people|thought|past tense marker|a long time|then|said These people thought for a long time and then said

我們 用 繩子 就 把 他們 吊 出來 吧 we|use|rope|then|(indicates disposal)|them|hang|out|suggestion particle Let's just use a rope to pull them out.

牠 自己 沒有 繩子 it|itself|does not have|rope It doesn't have a rope itself.

只有 外人 有 繩子 only|outsiders|have|rope Only outsiders have the rope.

牠 只能 一直 自己 踩 著 媽媽 it|can only|continuously|by itself|step on|particle indicating ongoing action|mom It can only keep stepping on its mother.

媽媽 一直 沉下去 牠 也 一直 沉下去 mom|continuously|sink|it|also|continuously|sink Mom kept sinking, and it kept sinking too.

所以 外力 代表 不同 的 思考 的 模型 so|external force|represents|different|possessive particle|thinking|possessive particle|model So external forces represent different models of thinking.

通常 可以 有效地 usually|can|effectively Usually, they can be effective.

你 看 ,他們 就 把 牠 拖出來 了 you|look|they|then|(a particle indicating the disposal of an object)|it (referring to an animal)|dragged out|past tense marker Look, they just pulled it out.

可是 ,這個 最 重要 but|this|most|important But this is the most important.

被 救 常常 也 會 被害 be|saved|often|also|will|harmed Being rescued often leads to being harmed.

牠 要 逃走 it|wants|to escape It wants to escape.

所以 搞了半天 牠 又 逃 回去 so|after a long time|it|again|escape|back So after all that, it escaped back.

逃 回去 那個 時候 escape|go back|that|time At that time, it escaped back.

嚇阻 牠 變成 救援 的 必要 手段 deterrence|it|becomes|rescue|possessive particle|necessary|means Deterrence became a necessary means of rescue.

意思 就是說 meaning|that is to say It means to say

你 看 他 旁邊 拿 一個 棍子 you|see|he|beside|holding|one|stick Look, he is holding a stick next to him

他 得 把 牠 趕回去 He|must|(particle indicating action)|it (referring to an animal)|drive back He has to drive it back

所以 有時候 你 要 去 解決 一個 問題 so|sometimes|you|need to|go|solve|a|problem So sometimes you have to solve a problem

你 還不 能夠 真的 太 客氣 you|still not|able to|really|too|polite You still can't be too polite

有的時候 問題 大到 沒有 辦法 救援 sometimes|problem|so big|no|way|rescue Sometimes the problem is so big that there is no way to rescue.

你 看 他們 用過 多少 方法 you|see|they|have used|how many|methods Look at how many methods they have tried.

派 了 車子 來 拖 出 媽媽 ,拖不出來 send|past tense marker|car|come|pull|out|mom|can't pull out They sent a vehicle to pull out the mother, but it couldn't be done.

但是 覺醒 變成 唯一 的 機會 but|awakening|becomes|only|possessive particle|opportunity However, awakening has become the only opportunity.

你 知道 這 媽媽 沒有 被 拖出來 you|know|this|mom|not|passive marker|dragged out You know this mother has not been pulled out.

牠 怎麼 出來 ? it|how|come out How did it come out?

因為 牠 看到 小 象 已經 走 了 because|it|saw|small|elephant|already|walked|past tense marker Because it saw that the little elephant had already left.

牠 想要 跟上 小 象 it|wants|to catch up with|little|elephant It wanted to catch up with the little elephant.

所以 牠 那個 時候 產生 了 牠 原來 沒有 的 力量 so|it|that|time|produced|past tense marker|it|originally|did not have|possessive particle|strength So at that moment, it generated a strength that it originally did not have.

牠 本來 就 有 可是 牠 那 時候 沒有 用到 的 力量 it|originally|already|had|but|it|that|time|did not|use|possessive particle|strength It actually had it, but it did not use that strength at that time.

牠 自己 整個 人 掙扎 出來 it|itself|whole|person|struggled|out It struggled to get out by itself.

所以 這個 感人 的 故事 so|this|touching|possessive particle|story So this is a touching story.

我 一直 在 想像 它 可不可以 變成 母 象是 教育部 I|always|at|imagining|it|can or cannot|become|female|like|Ministry of Education I have been imagining whether it could become a mother elephant, which is the Ministry of Education.

牠 爬 得 出來 it|climb|able to|come out It climbed out.

牠 真的 爬 得 出來 it|really|climb|able to|get out It really climbed out.

好 啦 good|particle indicating a change or new situation Okay.

第一個 講完 第二個 講完 first|finished speaking|second|finished speaking The first one is done, the second one is done.

第三個 third The third one.

4 分 14 秒 我 控制 看看 minutes|seconds|I|control|take a look 4 minutes and 14 seconds, let me control and see.

如果 我 說 if|I|say If I say...

高等教育 會 有 大 麻煩 higher education|will|have|big|trouble Higher education will have big troubles.

大學 現有 的 經營 方式 ,成本 過高 ,產能 太 低 是 沒有 辦法 繼續 生存 的 university|current|possessive particle|management|method|cost|too high|production capacity|too|low|is|no|way|continue|survive|particle indicating past action The current operating model of universities has excessively high costs and too low productivity, making it impossible to continue to survive.

如果 我 說 30 年 以後 大型 大學 的 校園 if|I|say|years|later|large|university|possessive particle|campus If I say that in 30 years, large university campuses,

包括 台灣 有 很多 都 將 變成 廢墟 including|Taiwan|has|many|all|will|become|ruins including many in Taiwan, will become ruins.

政府 花大錢 補助 現有 的 經營 模型 是 錯誤 的 It is wrong for the government to spend a lot of money subsidizing the current operating model.

如果 我 這樣 說 if|I|like this|say If I say this

大概 沒什麼 人 理 我 probably|nothing much|people|reason|I Probably no one will care about me

而且 還有 不少 人 要 罵 我 and|also|quite a few|people|want|to scold|me And there are quite a few people who want to scold me

所以 不是 我 說 的 so|not|I|said|past tense marker So it's not what I said

如果 是 他 說 的 呢 ? if|is|he|said|past action particle|question particle What if he said it?

各位 應該 認識 everyone|should|know Everyone should know.

不 認識 的 人 查 一下 他 是 誰 not|recognize|possessive particle|person|check|a little|he|is|who For those who don't know, check who he is.

活得 很長 一輩子 都 在 教書 live|very long|whole life|always|at|teaching He lived a long life, teaching all the time.

他 最後 的 幾年 一直 在 告訴 大家 說 he|last|possessive particle|few years|always|at|telling|everyone|said In his last few years, he kept telling everyone that.

未來 不是 像 現在 這樣 future|is not|like|now|this The future will not be like it is now.

在 1997 年 3 月 10 號 on|year|month|day On March 10, 1997

富比士 雜誌 去 訪問 他 ,談 未來 Forbes|magazine|to|interview|him|talk|future Forbes magazine interviewed him, discussing the future

他 談 了 很多 ,最後 談到 教育 He|talked|past tense marker|a lot|finally|talked about|education He talked about many things, and finally mentioned education

前面 的 幾項 都 發生 了 earlier|possessive particle|several items|all|occurred|past tense marker The previous items have all happened

他 那個 時候 就 預測 he|that|time|already|predicted He predicted that at that time

哪幾個 公司 要 倒掉 which few|companies|will|go bankrupt Which companies are going to collapse?

所以 就 真的 就 發生 了 so|then|really|just|happened|past tense marker So it really happened.

金融危機 那個 時候 就 真的 垮 了 financial crisis|that|time|then|really|collapsed|past tense marker During the financial crisis, it really fell apart.

他 一 直 說 那 樣子 為 什麼 要 倒 he|one|continuously|said|that|way|why|what|to|pour He kept saying, why should it collapse like that?

不是 他 預測 的 not|he|prediction|possessive particle It wasn't what he predicted.

富比士 問 他 說 你 為 什麼 可以 這樣 預測 Forbes|asked|he|said|you|why|what|can|like this|predict Forbes asked him, "How can you predict this?"

他 說 he|says He said,

I'm not forecasting, 我 沒有 預測 "I'm not forecasting, I'm not predicting."

I'mseeingit.我 看到 的 |I|seeing|past tense marker "I'm seeing it."

但是 它 還 沒有 被 看見 but|it|still|not|passive marker|seen "But it hasn't been seen yet."

我 看見 沒有 被 看見 的 事 I|saw|not|passive marker|seen|possessive particle|thing I see things that have not been seen.

這個 是 重點 this|is|key point This is the key point.

所以 16 年 前 他 說 so|years|ago|he|said So, 16 years ago he said.

其實 我 剛剛 已經 翻譯 了 actually|I|just|already|translated|past tense marker Actually, I just translated it.

30 年 後 ,會 是 廢墟 years|later|will|be|ruins In 30 years, it will be ruins.

學校 ...大學 沒有 辦法 存活 school|university|does not have|way|to survive The school ... the university has no way to survive.

問題 會 大到 怎麼樣 ? question|will|become serious|how How big will the problem be?

好像 大到 我們 花 了 100 年 的 時間 才 把 印刷術 變成 教科書 那麼 長 的 時間 it seems|as big as|we|spent|past tense marker|years|possessive particle|time|only then|particle indicating the disposal of an object|printing technology|became|textbook|that|long|possessive particle|time It seems so big that we spent 100 years just to turn printing into textbooks, such a long time.

才能 解決 的 問題 can only|solve|possessive particle|problem Only then can we solve the problem.

那麼 大 的 問題 so|big|possessive particle|question Such a big problem.

可是 我們 沒有 100 年 去 解決 大學 的 問題 but|we|do not have|years|to|solve|university|possessive particle|problem But we do not have 100 years to solve the problems of higher education.

Higher education is a deep crisis .(高等教育是個大危機) 高等|教育|是|個|大|危機| Higher education is a deep crisis.

這是 他 說 的 this is|he|said|past tense marker This is what he said.

好 這個 問題 完 了 以後 good|this|question|finished|past tense marker|after Okay, after this question is finished.

如果 各位 有 興趣 在 網路上 查 if|everyone|have|interest|on|the internet|search If anyone is interested, you can check online.

你 就 可以 發現 一些 有心 的 大學 的 校長 ,主管 傳來傳去 ,在 傳 you|then|can|discover|some|caring|possessive particle|university|possessive particle|principal|supervisor|passing around|at|transmitting You can find some dedicated university presidents who are passing information back and forth.

他 說 的 這個 是不是 真的 he|said|possessive particle|this|is or isn't|real Is what he said really true?

同年 6 月 ,也就是 3 個 月 以後 the same year|month|that is|measure word|months|later In June of the same year, which is three months later.

他 又 再 接受 訪問 He|again|again|accepted|interview He was interviewed again.

他 那個 時候 講得 更 清楚 he|that|time|spoke|more|clearly At that time, he spoke even more clearly.

Universitieswon'tsurvive.(大學 將 死 ) |Universities|will|die Universities won't survive.

夠 清楚 了 吧 ? enough|clear|past tense marker|suggestion particle Is that clear enough?

Thefutureisoutsidethetraditionalcampus,(未來 是 在 傳統 校園 之外 ) |future|is|in|traditional|campus|outside The future is outside the traditional campus.

outside the traditional classroom.( 在 傳統 教室 之外 ) Outside the traditional classroom.

Distance learning is coming.( 遠距 教育 時代 來臨 ) Distance learning is coming.

所以 這個 後面 大家 都 知道 了 so|this|later|everyone|all|knows|past tense marker So everyone knows this later.

這個 是 他 在 ,如果 記得 沒有 錯 ,是 6 月 吧 ? this|is|he|at|if|remembers|not|wrong|is|month|question particle This is when he, if I remember correctly, is in June, right?

6 月 16 號 他 接受 的 訪問 month|day|he|accepted|possessive particle|interview He was interviewed on June 16.

1 分 05 秒 minute|second 1 minute and 05 seconds.

想像 教育部 可以 認同 imagine|Ministry of Education|can|recognize Imagine the Ministry of Education could agree.

沒有 校舍 的 美麗 校園 without|school building|possessive particle|beautiful|campus A beautiful campus without school buildings.

沒有 入學 考 的 嚴謹 大學 no|entrance|exam|possessive particle|rigorous|university A rigorous university without entrance exams.

聽 起來 都 是 矛盾 的 sounds|like|all|are|contradictory|particle It all sounds contradictory.

龐大 師生 的 小型 大學 large|teachers and students|possessive particle|small|university A small university with a large faculty and student body.

還有 可以 想 可以 想 很多 And there are many things to think about.

但是 更 重要 的 but|more|important|possessive particle But more importantly,

那 樣子 的 一個 學校 裡面 that|appearance|possessive particle|a|school|inside in such a school,

學生 老師 中秋節 會來 上課 student|teacher|Mid-Autumn Festival|will come|class students and teachers will come to class during the Mid-Autumn Festival.

匆匆忙忙 地 趕車 把 想講 的 跟 各位 分享 了 in a hurry|adverbial particle|catch the bus|particle indicating the disposal of an object|wanted to say|possessive particle|with|everyone|share|past tense marker They hurriedly catch the bus to share what they want to say with everyone.

我 相信 有 很多 幼稚 的 地方 I|believe|have|many|childish|possessive particle|places I believe there are many naive aspects.

但是 最後 的 18 秒 but|last|possessive particle|seconds But the last 18 seconds

我 很 想 跟 各位 說 I|very|want|with|everyone|to speak I really want to say to everyone

其實 剛剛 聽 起來 有 很多 像 玩笑話 的 地方 actually|just now|heard|sounds|has|many|like|joking|possessive particle|places Actually, there were many parts that sounded like jokes just now

說不定 有些 值得 在座 maybe|some|worth|present Perhaps some of them are worth the effort of those present

用 點 力氣 use|a little|strength to put in some effort

以 你們 的 想像力 ,以 你們 的 影響力 with|you (plural)|possessive particle|imagination|with|you (plural)|possessive particle|influence With your imagination, with your influence.

其實 教育 2.0 真的 會 在 什麼 地方 呈現 actually|education|really|will|in|what|place|manifest Actually, Education 2.0 will really manifest in what places.

這個 世紀 呈現 了 很多 我們 認為 不 可能 的 事 this|century|presents|past tense marker|many|we|believe|not|possible|possessive particle|things This century has presented many things we thought were impossible.

像 Amazon, 像 Steve Jobs Like Amazon, like Steve Jobs.

大概 在座 很多 人 很 喜歡 probably|present|many|people|very|like Probably many people here really like it.

都 說 他 要 做 手機 all|say|he|wants|to make|phone They all say he wants to make a phone.

人家 說 人家 手機 做好 好 ,你 要 做 什麼 ? I|said|I|phone|ready|good|you|want|do|what Others say their phone is well made, what do you want to make?

他 說 我 要 redefine 手機 he|said|I|want|redefine|phone He said, I want to redefine the phone.

在座 各位 一定 有人 可以 redefine 台灣 的 大學 教育 present|everyone|definitely|someone|can|redefine|Taiwan|possessive particle|university|education Surely, there are people here who can redefine Taiwan's university education.

謝謝 大家 thank you|everyone Thank you, everyone.