John Dillermand: Hvorfor skaber dansk børne-tv igen forargelse? John Dillermand: Warum sorgt das dänische Kinderfernsehen wieder für Empörung? John Dillermand: Why is Danish children's TV causing outrage again? John Dillermand: ¿Por qué la televisión infantil danesa vuelve a causar indignación?

- Den er gal igen. - Goddag, det er John Dillermand. - It's crazy again. - Hello, this is John Dillermand.

John ... Dillermand John Dillermand John ... Dillermand John Dillermand

Børneserien om John her, der har verdens længste dillermand - The children's series about John here, who has the world's longest wiener man

- har skabt masser af debat både i Danmark og i udlandet. - has generated a lot of debate both in Denmark and abroad.

Det kritiseres som kønsstereotypt og tonedøvt i en tid med #metoo - It is criticized as gender stereotypical and tone deaf in the age of #metoo

- at lave en serie om en mand og hans penis, der får ham i problemer. - to make a series about a man and his penis that gets him into trouble.

Sådan gik det til, at John en gang imellem kom lidt galt af sted - That's how it happened that John occasionally got off on the wrong foot.

- når han gjorde noget med dilleren. - when he did something with his willy.

Dansk børnetv har før skabt debat og forargelse. Danish children's TV has sparked debate and outrage before.

"Ultra smider tøjet" har fået hug. "Ultra stripping down" has taken a hit.

Nøgne voksne stiller sig foran et børnepanel- Naked adults pose in front of a children's panel

- der kan stille spørgsmål til dem om deres kroppe. - who can ask them questions about their bodies.

Og Onkel Reje er blevet voldsomt kritiseret for at hylde satanisme. And Uncle Reje has been heavily criticized for celebrating Satanism.

Vi vil lave en pagt med dig, så vi kan vinde Heavy MGP. We will make a pact with you so we can win Heavy MGP.

Skal dansk børnetv altid gå lige til grænsen? Should Danish children's TV always push the envelope?

Helle Strandgaard kan hjælpe mig med at svare på spørgsmålet. Helle Strandgaard can help me answer the question.

Der er en nordisk tradition, som går 50 år tilbage - There's a Nordic tradition that goes back 50 years.

- for at lave børnetv, som ikke er grænseskridende for at provokere - - for making children's TV that doesn't cross the line to provoke

- men som stikker ud fra, hvordan man laver børnetv i resten af verden. - but which stands out from how children's TV is made in the rest of the world.

Han tæskede os og løb op i en opgang, og så glemte vi Heidi og Bjarne. He beat us up and ran up a staircase, and then we forgot Heidi and Bjarne.

Ned og led. Get down and suffer.

Man interesserer sig for, hvad børn synes om samfundet. You care about what children think about society.

Nøj, det er for børn. Wow, that's for kids.

Hvordan ser samfundet ud fra børnenes eller de unges synsvinkel - What does society look like from the children's or young people's point of view?

- og ligesom repræsentere det. - and kind of represent it.

I resten af verden handler det om, hvordan børnene bliver som voksne. In the rest of the world, it's about how children turn out as adults.

Man vil gerne have børnene til at have samme værdier og holdninger - You want your children to have the same values and attitudes

- som i de voksnes verden. - as in the adult world.

At spise æbler er den bedste leg, vi kender. Eating apples is the best game we know.

Sex og Samfund og børnepsykologer har været inde over produktionen. Sex and Society and child psychologists have been involved in the production.

Men kritikere synes, at der er langt fra at se noget i børneperspektiv - But critics think it's a far cry from seeing things from a child's perspective

- til at en i et børneprogram skal have en meterlang diller. - for someone on a children's show to have a meter-long dick.

En, der mener, at serien rammer uden for skiven er Christian Groes. One person who thinks the series misses the mark is Christian Groes.

Han er kønsforsker på RUC. He is a gender researcher at RUC.

I kølvandet på #metoo ramte det helt skævt. In the aftermath of #metoo, it hit home.

Det var besynderligt, at man vælger at lave sådan en udsendelse - It was strange that they chose to make such a broadcast

- hvor der er en altdominerende ældre, mandlige figur - - where there is a predominantly older, male figure

- der kan det mest utrolige med sin dillermand. - who can do the most amazing things with his wiener.

Det er John Dillermand med ild og vand. It's John Dillerman with fire and water.

Det er ikke progressivt i forhold til kropslig mangfoldighed. It's not progressive in terms of bodily diversity.

Du må ikke vifte med dolken i haven. Do not wave your dagger in the garden.

Om det var kniven eller dilleren, oldemor mente, var John i tvivl om. John wasn't sure if it was the knife or the dill that his great-grandmother was referring to.

DR skulle stå ved, at det her er mandehørm i børnehøjde. DR should stand up for the fact that this is man talk at child height.

Det er ikke seksualiserende, nej, men det er mandehørm i børnehøjde. It's not sexualizing, no, but it's male bonding at a kid's level.

Den kritik har vi bedt chefen for Ramasjang forholde sig til. We have asked the head of Ramasjang to respond to this criticism.

Jeg mener ikke, det er mandehørm. Det er et forsimplet blik på sagen. I don't think it's male chauvinism. It's a simplistic way of looking at it.

Det er en komedieserie, hvor hovedkarakteren har -

- den her 6-8 meter og på et tidspunkt 130 meter lange diller. - this 6-8 meter and at one point 130 meter long dick.

Vi bruger tit overdrevne karakterer til at fortælle historier - We often use exaggerated characters to tell stories

- særligt i de grænsesøgende eller absurde fortællinger. - especially in the boundary-pushing or absurd stories.

Hvad gør mest ondt? At hoppe ned oppe fra dig eller løbe ind i en mur? What hurts more? Jumping off the top of you or running into a wall?

Det gjorde vi med "Osman og Jeppe". We did that with 'Osman and Jeppe'.

Osman er så fattig, at de sultne børn i Afrika sender penge til ham. Osman is so poor that the hungry children in Africa send him money.

"Bamse og Kylling" viser også, at man kan gå længere med en fiktiv figur. "Bamse og Kylling" also shows that you can go further with a fictional character.

Så blev der søreme også et stykke til mig. Then there was definitely a piece for me too.

"Gepetto News" har vi også gjort det med. We've done it with "Gepetto News" too.

Det er sok i trusser og bh. It's sock in panties and bra.

John ville gerne have en is, men han havde ingen penge. John wanted an ice cream, but he didn't have any money.

Du kan altid lægge et andet blik på. Man skal tage det for, hvad det er. You can always take a second look. You have to take it for what it is.

Det er henvendt til de 4-8-årige. Det er ikke en kommentar til #metoo. It's aimed at 4-8 year olds. It is not a comment on #metoo.

Man forsimplede #metoo-debatten meget ved at tage det her ind i den snak. The #metoo debate was greatly simplified by bringing this into the conversation.

Går den til grænsen for, hvad man kan lave af børnefjernsyn? Does it push the boundaries of children's television?

Hvis man kigger igennem tiden, har det jo flyttet sig. If you look back over time, it has moved.

I 90'erne havde vi "Body Bio", som var meget mere explicit. In the 90s we had "Body Bio", which was much more explicit.

Når man får lyst til sex - When you get the urge to have sex

- bliver pigens klitoris større og drengens tissemand stiv. - the girl's clitoris gets bigger and the boy's penis gets hard.

Vi har rigtig mange forskellige programmer. We have a lot of different programs.

"John Dillermand" er et ud af mange tilbud, Ramasjang har.

Christian Groes har en anke mere mod "John Dillermand". Christian Groes has one more complaint against "John Dillermand".

Det er stadig en dillermand, den har et køn og en magt og nogle værdier. It's still a wiener, it has a gender and power and values.

Smed du lige skrald i vandet med dilleren, spurgte fiskeren. Did you just throw garbage in the water with the dill, asked the fisherman.

Det ville være vanskeligt at gøre det modsatte. It would be difficult to do the opposite.

John kom til at tænke på Yvonne igen, og det gjorde dilleren også. John thought of Yvonne again, and so did the diller.

Det ville være vanskeligt at have en serie med et kvindeligt kønsorgan- It would be difficult to have a series with a female genitalia

- der kunne og gjorde det hele. Det er usandsynligt, at det sker. - who could and did it all. It's unlikely to happen.

Spændende, om der kommer en sæson 2, og hvad den så kommer til at hedde. It's exciting to see if there will be a season 2 and what it will be called.