#9: Da disney channel a teatro con Jacopo Sarno [2] from|Disney|channel|to|theater|with|Jacopo|Sarno #9: Vom Disney Channel zum Theater mit Jacopo Sarno [2]. #9: De Disney Channel al teatro con Jacopo Sarno [2]. #9 : De Disney Channel au théâtre avec Jacopo Sarno [2]. #9: ディズニー チャンネルからヤコポ サルノの劇場へ [2] #9: Jacopo Sarno와 함께 디즈니 채널에서 극장으로 [2] #9: Van Disney Channel naar theater met Jacopo Sarno [2]. #9: Od Disney Channel do teatru z Jacopo Sarno [2]. #9: Do disney channel ao teatro com Jacopo Sarno [2] № 9: От канала Дисней к театру с Якопо Сарно [2] #9: Från Disney Channel till teater med Jacopo Sarno [2]. #9号：从迪斯尼频道到剧院，与雅克波-萨诺[2]。 #9: From Disney Channel to theater with Jacopo Sarno [2]

JACOPO: Bisogna fare un rewatch. ||||shlédnutí ||||Rewatch Jacopo|one must|to do|a|rewatch ||||herkijken JACOPO: Sie müssen es sich noch einmal ansehen. JACOPO: We need to do a rewatch.

MICHELE: Ma anche per te stesso, no? MICHAEL|But|also|for|you|self|no MICHELE: Aber auch für sich selbst, oder? MICHELE: Maar ook voor jezelf, toch? MICHELE: But also for yourself, right?

Per rivedere gli albori. |||Anfänge to|review|the|beginnings |||de beginjaren Um die Anfänge Revue passieren zu lassen. Om de ochtenden opnieuw te zien. To revisit the beginnings.

JACOPO: È interessante perché non lo guardavo. MICHELE: Davvero? Jacopo|it is|interesting|because|not|it|I was watching|Michele|Really JACOPO: Het is interessant omdat ik er niet naar keek. MICHELE: Echt? JACOPO: It's interesting because I didn't watch it. MICHELE: Really?

JACOPO: Non stavo lì a riguardare le puntate che avevo girato. |||||||Folgen||| Jacopo|Not|I was|there|to|to rewatch|the|episodes|that|I had|filmed |||||herbekijken||||| JACOPO: Ich stand nicht da und schaute mir die Episoden an, die ich gedreht hatte. JACOPO: Ik was daar niet om de afleveringen die ik had opgenomen opnieuw te bekijken. JACOPO: I wasn't there rewatching the episodes I had filmed.

Le giravo e magari se accendevo Disney Channel beccavo altro. |ich drehte|||||||bekam| the|I turned|and|maybe|if|I turned on|Disney|Channel|I caught|other |||||ik aanzette|||| Ich würde sie umdrehen, und wenn ich den Disney-Kanal einschaltete, würde ich vielleicht etwas anderes sehen. Ik draaide ze en misschien als ik Disney Channel aandeed, zag ik iets anders. I filmed them and maybe if I turned on Disney Channel I caught something else.

MICHELE: Ok, certo. MICHELE: Oké, natuurlijk. MICHELE: Okay, sure.

JACOPO: Magari guardavo la puntata dei "Maghi di Waverly". ||||||Magové||Waverly ||||||Magier||Waverly Jacopo|maybe|I was watching|the|episode|of the|Magicians|of|Waverly JACOPO: Maybe I watched the episode of "Wizards of Waverly Place."

MICHELE: Adoravo. JACOPO: Perché mi piaceva. MICHELE: I loved it. JACOPO: Because I liked it.

MICHELE: Li adoravo. MICHELE|them|I loved ||ik hield van ze MICHELE: Ich habe sie geliebt. MICHELE: I loved them.

JACOPO: A 18 anni non stavo tutto il giorno attaccato... Als ich 18 war, habe ich nicht den ganzen Tag rumgehangen... JACOPO: Op 18-jarige leeftijd zat ik niet de hele dag vastgeplakt... JACOPO: At 18, I wasn't stuck all day...

MICHELE: E sì, poi col tuo lavoro immagino. MICHAEL|and|yes|then|with the|your|work|I imagine MICHELE: Ja, en met jouw werk stel ik me voor. MICHELE: And yes, then with your job I imagine.

Eri e sei tanto impegnato, è un lavoro che ti impegna molto. you were|and|you are|much|busy|it is|a|job|that|you|engages|very much ||||||||||vergt veel| Sie waren und sind sehr beschäftigt, es ist ein sehr anspruchsvoller Job. Je was en bent heel druk, het is een werk dat je veel bezighoudt. You were and are very busy, it's a job that takes a lot of your time.

Infatti vorrei parlare anche di questo. indeed|I would like|to talk|also|about|this Ik wil daarover ook praten. In fact, I would like to talk about this too.

Cosa vuol dire essere un attore? Perché tu ovviamente sei un artista completo. what|does|to mean|to be|a|actor|why|you|obviously|you are|a|artist|complete Wat betekent het om een acteur te zijn? Want jij bent natuurlijk een complete kunstenaar. What does it mean to be an actor? Because you are obviously a complete artist.

Come ho detto prima, sei un attore, doppiatore, anche ballerino come hai detto prima, as|I have|said|before|you are|a|actor|voice actor|also|dancer|like|you have|| Zoals ik eerder al zei, ben je een acteur, stemacteur, ook danser zoals je eerder zei. As I said before, you are an actor, a voice actor, also a dancer as you mentioned earlier,

un cantante. a|singer a singer.

Ma principalmente possiamo dire attore? but|mainly|we can|to say|actor But mainly can we say actor?

JACOPO: Sì, diciamo principalmente... JACOPO: Yes, let's say mainly...

Allora, in parallelo attore e cantautore. ||parallel||| so|in|parallel|actor|and|singer-songwriter Dus, parallel acteur en singer-songwriter. So, in parallel, actor and singer-songwriter.

MICHELE: E cantautore. MICHAEL|he is|singer-songwriter MICHELE: En singer-songwriter. MICHELE: And singer-songwriter.

JACOPO: Cantautore nel senso che scrivo le mie canzoni. JACOPO: Singer-songwriter in de zin dat ik mijn eigen nummers schrijf. JACOPO: Singer-songwriter in the sense that I write my own songs.

Quando escono dei dischi o faccio dei concerti, di solito sono canzoni mie. when|they release|some|albums|or|I do|some|concerts|of|usually|they are|songs|my Wenn Platten herauskommen oder ich Konzerte gebe, sind es meistens meine Songs. Wanneer er albums uitkomen of ik concerten geef, zijn het meestal mijn nummers. When albums are released or I do concerts, they are usually my own songs.

MICHELE: Cosa vuol dire essere un attore in Italia? MICHELE|What|does it|mean|to be|a|actor|in|Italy MICHELE: Wat betekent het om acteur te zijn in Italië? MICHELE: What does it mean to be an actor in Italy?

JACOPO: Eh vuol dire... è dura. MICHELE: È dura. Jacopo|Well|he wants|to say|it is|hard|Michele|| JACOPO: Eh, dat betekent... het is moeilijk. MICHELE: Het is moeilijk. JACOPO: Well, it means... it's tough. MICHELE: It's tough.

JACOPO: È molto dura. JACOPO|it is|very|tough JACOPO: It's very tough.

Bisogna essere in grado di affiancare la propria professione... Man muss in der Lage sein, seinen Beruf zu kombinieren... One must be able to balance their profession...

Allora, intanto bisogna dire che io sono fortunatissimo. |||||||sehr glücklich so|meanwhile|it is necessary|to say|that|I|I am|very lucky |||||||heel gelukkig Nou, allereerst moet ik zeggen dat ik ontzettend gelukkig ben. So, first of all, I must say that I am very lucky.

Perché poter fare... why|to be able to|to do Denn die Fähigkeit zu tun... Omdat ik kan doen... Because being able to do...

Di attori ce ne sono tanti e ce ne sono di bravissimi. ||||sind|||||||sehr gute of|actors|there|there|there are|many|and|||||very good Es gibt viele Schauspieler, und es gibt sehr gute Schauspieler. Er zijn veel acteurs en er zijn er echt heel goede. There are many actors and there are some really great ones.

Quando tu sei diplomato in un'accademia, |||absolviert||einer Akademie when|you|you are|graduated|in| |||afgestudeerd|| Wenn du eine Akademie abschließt, When you graduate from an academy,

laureato al Piccolo per esempio, Absolvent||Piccolo|| afgestudeerd|||| graduate|at the|Piccolo|for|example for example, graduated from the Piccolo,

o sei un attore che ha una certa esperienza, or|you are|a|actor|who|he has|a|certain|experience or you are an actor with a certain experience,

tu sei un professionista. you|are|a|professional |||professional you are a professional.

Ma non tutti i professionisti riescono a vivere facendo solo questo mestiere. but|not|everyone|the|professionals|they manage|to|to live|doing|only|this|profession Maar niet alle professionals kunnen leven van alleen dit beroep. But not all professionals can make a living doing just this job.

MICHELE: È vero, sì. MICHAEL|it is|true|yes MICHELE: Het is waar, ja. MICHELE: That's true, yes.

JACOPO: Perché è durissima. |||sehr hart JACOPO|Because|it is|very hard JACOPO: Omdat het heel moeilijk is. JACOPO: Because it's really tough.

Quindi quando certi colleghi dicono: so|when|certain|colleagues|they say Dus wanneer bepaalde collega's zeggen: So when certain colleagues say:

"Noi in un giorno prendiamo lo stipendio di un mese." wir|in|||bekommen||Gehalt||| we|in|a|day|we take|the|salary|of||month "Wir nehmen an einem Tag ein Monatsgehalt." "Wij verdienen in één dag het salaris van een maand." "We earn in one day what others earn in a month."

Sì, intanto tu che sei 1 su 1 milione. yes|meanwhile|you|who|you are|on|million Ja, Sie, der Sie 1 zu 1 Million sind. Ja, ondertussen ben jij 1 op 1 miljoen. Yes, meanwhile you are 1 in a million.

Anzi, su 6 milioni. on the contrary|on|millions Actually, 1 in 6 million.

Poi, quante volte all'anno succede questa cosa? then|how many|times|per year|does it happen|this|thing Dan, hoe vaak per jaar gebeurt deze zaak? So, how many times a year does this happen?

Magari fai una posa in un film, |||Pose||| maybe|you do|a|pose|in|a|movie |||pose||| Misschien poseer je in een film, Maybe you pose in a movie,

è chiaro che è pagata molto di più di una replica teatrale. ||||bezahlt||||||Replik|theatrale it is|clear|that|it is|paid|much|than|more|of|a|replica|theatrical ||||||||||theaterreplica| Es ist klar, dass es viel mehr als eine theatralische Replik bezahlt wird. het is duidelijk dat dit veel beter betaald is dan een theaterreplica. it's clear that it's paid much more than a theater performance.

Ma la tournée in teatro magari sono 50 date. but|the|tour|in|theater|maybe|there are|dates Aber die Theatertournee hat vielleicht 50 Termine. Maar de tournee in het theater zijn misschien 50 datums. But the theater tour might be 50 dates.

Ma oltre quelle 50 date, quando finisce la tournée che cosa fai? but|besides|those|dates|when|does it end|the|tour|what|what|do you do Maar wat doe je na die 50 datums, wanneer de tournee eindigt? But beyond those 50 dates, when the tour ends, what do you do?

Stai a casa? are you|at|home Blijf je thuis? Do you stay at home?

È un problema, non ce la fai, non ci stai dentro. it is|a|problem|not|there|you|you do||we|you stay|inside Das ist ein Problem, du gehörst nicht dazu. Het is een probleem, je redt het niet, je komt er niet meer uit. It's a problem, you can't handle it, you can't keep up.

MICHELE: Sì. MICHELE: Ja. MICHELE: Yes.

JACOPO: Quindi è molto difficile l'obiettivo di chi vuol fare l'attore, JACOPO: Dus het is heel moeilijk voor degene die acteur wil worden, JACOPO: So it's very difficult for those who want to be an actor,

ma così come anche di chi fa musica. but|like this|as|also|of|who|does|music but also for those who make music.

Io ho avuto... ||hatte I|have|had I had...

Scusami, faccio un passo indietro. ||||zurück excuse me|I take|a|step|backward Sorry, ik neem een stap terug. Excuse me, let me take a step back.

MICHELE: Sì, vai. MICHELE: Ja, ga maar. MICHELE: Yes, go ahead.

JACOPO: Ho avuto un rapporto di amore e odio con i social. ||||Verhältnis||||Hass||| JACOPO|I have|had|a|relationship|of|love|and|hatred|with|the|social ||||||||haat||| JACOPO: Ich hatte eine Hassliebe zu den sozialen Medien. JACOPO: Ik heb een haat-liefdeverhouding gehad met de sociale media. JACOPO: I have had a love-hate relationship with social media.

Perché solo quest'anno mi sono messo sui social? why|only|this year|I|I am|put|on the|social media Waarom ben ik dit jaar pas op sociale media gegaan? Why did I start using social media only this year?

Intanto non esistevano quando facevo televisione, meanwhile|not|they existed|when|I was doing|television In de tussentijd bestonden ze niet toen ik op televisie werkte, Well, they didn't exist when I was on television,

ma quando ero su Disney Channel, but|when|I was|on|Disney|Channel maar toen ik bij Disney Channel was, but when I was on Disney Channel,

iniziavano ad esserci i primi gruppi su Facebook. they were starting|at|to be there|the|first|groups|on|Facebook the first groups on Facebook were starting to appear.

C'erano solo Myspace e Facebook, Instagram non esisteva ancora. ||Myspace|||||| ||Myspace|||||| there were|only|Myspace|and|Facebook|Instagram|not|existed|yet ||Myspace|||||| There were only Myspace and Facebook, Instagram didn't exist yet.

E c'erano dei gruppi che mi volevano morto, per esempio. and|there were|some|groups|that|me|they wanted|dead|for|example En er waren groepen die me dood wilden, bijvoorbeeld. And there were groups that wanted me dead, for example.

JACOPO: C'erano gruppi di odio... MICHELE: I primi haters. Jacopo|there were|groups|of|hatred|Michele|the|first|haters JACOPO: Er waren haatgroepen... MICHELE: De eerste haters. JACOPO: There were hate groups... MICHELE: The first haters.

JACOPO: Pesantissimi, con commenti pesantissimi. JACOPO: Sehr heftig, mit sehr heftigen Kommentaren. JACOPO: Zeer heftig, met zeer heftige reacties. JACOPO: Very heavy, with very harsh comments.

Li leggeva mia madre e ci rimaneva male. |lasst|||||| them|he read|my|mother|and|to us|he remained|badly Mijn moeder las het en werd er verdrietig van. My mother read them and felt bad.

Io dicevo: "Mamma non leggere, io non ci entro neanche, non voglio vedere." I|I said|Mum|not|to read|I|not|there|I enter|neither||I want|to see Ich habe immer gesagt: "Mama, lies nicht, ich will da gar nicht rein, ich will das nicht sehen." Ik zei: "Mama, lees niet, ik ga er niet eens in, ik wil het niet zien." I said: "Mom, don't read, I'm not going in there, I don't want to see."

Ora ricominciando a postare, |wieder|| now|starting again|to|to post |nu opnieuw|| Nu begin ik weer met posten, Now starting to post again,

qualcuno di questi haters si è risvegliato. MICHELE: È uscito fuori. ||||||risvegliato|||| someone|of|these|haters|he|he is|awakened|MICHAEL|he has|gone out|outside ||||||ontwaakt|||| some of these haters have awakened. MICHELE: They came out.

E ti dirò, gli ho dato il benvenuto. and|you|I will tell|to him|I have|given|the|welcome En ik zal je vertellen, ik heb hem begroet. And I'll tell you, I welcomed them.

Ho detto: "Mi siete mancati!" MICHELE: Esatto. ||||fehlt|| I have|said|to me|you are|missed|MICHAEL|exactly Ich sagte: "Ich habe dich vermisst!" MICHELE: Das ist richtig. Ik zei: "Ik heb jullie gemist!" MICHELE: Juist. I said: "I missed you!" MICHELE: Exactly.

JACOPO: La cosa divertente è che uno, |the|thing|funny|it is|that|one JACOPO: Het grappige is dat een, JACOPO: The funny thing is that one,

non so chi, non ricordo, però si Instagram ogni tanto vedi il commento. ||||||||||||Kommentar not|I know|who|not|I remember|but|yes|Instagram|every|sometimes|you see|the|comment ik weet niet wie, ik herinner me het niet, maar op Instagram zie je af en toe de reactie. I don't know who, I don't remember, but on Instagram you sometimes see the comment.

Ogni tanto mi faccio un giro perché poi scrivono un sacco di cose belle every|sometimes|I|I do|a|walk|because|then|they write|a|lot|of|things|beautiful Af en toe kijk ik rond omdat ze een hoop mooie dingen schrijven Sometimes I take a look because then they write a lot of nice things

che mi fanno tanto piacere. that|to me|they do|much|pleasure die me veel plezier doen. that make me very happy.

Ogni tanto becchi quello che scrive la cattiveria. MICHELE: Eh sì. ||bekommst|||||Bosheit||| every|sometimes|you catch|that|who|he writes|the|malice|MICHAEL|Oh|yes ||je raakt|||||||| Af en toe kom je iemand tegen die gemeenheid schrijft. MICHELE: Ja, dat klopt. Sometimes you catch the one who writes the nastiness. MICHELE: Oh yes.

JACOPO: Uno di questi mi scrive "La prof. di corsivo è più famosa di te." |||||||||Kursivschrift||||| JACOPO|One|of|these|to me|he writes|The|professor|of|italic|he is|more|famous|than|you JACOPO: Einer von ihnen schreibt mir: "Der Schreibschriftlehrer ist berühmter als du". JACOPO: Een van deze schrijft me "De lerares cursieve schrift is beroemder dan jij." JACOPO: One of them writes to me "The cursive teacher is more famous than you."

E io gli ho risposto: and|I|to him|I have|answered En ik heb hem geantwoord: And I replied to him:

"La fama e il successo personale non sono la stessa cosa." the|fame|and|the|success|personal|not|they are|the|same|thing "Fama en persoonlijk succes zijn niet hetzelfde." "Fame and personal success are not the same thing."

Io faccio questo mestiere con continuità, I|I do|this|job|with|continuity Ik doe dit beroep continu, I have been doing this job continuously,

prima che la professoressa nascesse. ||||geboren before|that|the|professor| |||de professor| voordat de professor geboren werd. before the professor was born.

Nel senso che la cosa veramente difficile non è diventare famosi. In the|sense|that|the|thing|really|difficult|not|it is|to become|famous In de zin dat het echt moeilijke niet is om beroemd te worden. In the sense that the really difficult thing is not becoming famous.

Diventare famosi è facilissimo. |||sehr einfach to become|famous|it is|very easy Beroemd worden is echt heel gemakkelijk. Becoming famous is very easy.

MICHELE: È vero. MICHAEL|it is|true MICHELE: Het is waar. MICHELE: That's true.

Oggi con i social possiamo dire che è facilissimo, però rispetto a una volta... today|with|the|social|we can|to say|that|it is|very easy|but|respects|to|a|once Vandaag met de sociale media kunnen we zeggen dat het heel gemakkelijk is, maar vergeleken met vroeger... Today with social media we can say it's very easy, but compared to the past...

JACOPO: Facilissimo nel senso che tu puoi fare il trend giusto |||||||||Trend| JACOPO|very easy|in the|sense|that|you|you can|to make|the|trend|right JACOPO: Heel gemakkelijk in de zin dat je de juiste trend kunt volgen JACOPO: Very easy in the sense that you can set the right trend.

e tutti parlano di te. and|everyone|they talk|about|you en iedereen over jou praat. and everyone talks about you.

Ma quanto dura? But|how much|does it last But how long does it last?

Ti dà da mangiare? you|does give|to|to eat Füttert es Sie? Geeft hij/zij je te eten? Does it feed you?

Il punto è questo: sei capace di costruire un mestiere? |||||||||Handwerk the|point|it is|this|are you|capable|to|to build|a|trade Het punt is dit: ben je in staat om een ambacht te bouwen? The point is this: are you able to build a career?

Una professione? A|profession Een beroep? A profession?

Hai studiato per fare una professione e portarla avanti? |||||||sie| have you|studied|to|do|a|profession|and|to carry it|forward Heb je gestudeerd om een beroep te maken en het voort te zetten? Did you study to pursue a profession and carry it on?

La cosa più difficile per un lavoratore the|thing|most|difficult|for|a|worker Het moeilijkste voor een werknemer The hardest thing for a worker

del settore dello spettacolo, così includiamo tutti, |||||schließen wir ein| of the|sector|of the|entertainment|so|we include|everyone |||vermaak||inclusief| in de entertainmentindustrie, zodat we iedereen omvatten, in the entertainment industry, so we include everyone,

non è entrare a far parte di un giro. ||||||||kruhu not|it is|to enter|to|to make|part|of|a|circle het is niet om deel uit te maken van een cirkel. is not getting into a circle.

Poi i giri sono molteplici e alla fine il mondo dello spettacolo non esiste. ||Drehungen||||||||||| then|the|turns|they are|multiples|and|at the|end|the|world|of the|show|not|exists ||||meervoudig||||||||| Dan zijn de kringen veelvoudig en uiteindelijk bestaat de wereld van het spektakel niet. Then the circles are multiple and in the end the entertainment world does not exist.

Esiste chi gira in certi ambienti, ||verrückt||| there exists|who|he/she moves|in|certain|environments Er zijn mensen die in bepaalde kringen rondhangen, There are those who move in certain circles,

esiste il mestiere, it exists|the|trade het beroep bestaat, there is the profession,

esiste chi lo fa per anni, o chi per un mese o un anno. there exists|who|it|does|for|years|or|||a|month|||year er zijn mensen die het jaren doen, of mensen die het voor een maand of een jaar doen. there are those who do it for years, or those who do it for a month or a year.

Il punto è che il vero successo professionale è riuscire |||||||||erfolgen the|point|it is|that|the|true|success|professional|it is|to succeed Het punt is dat het echte professionele succes is om te slagen The point is that true professional success is managing

a campare facendo il mestiere che ami, qualunque esso sia, |leben|||||||| at|to make a living|doing|the|job|that|you love|any|it|it is |vergelijken met|||||||| a leven van het vak dat je liefhebt, wat het ook is, to make a living doing the job you love, whatever it may be,

e a farlo sul lungo periodo. and|to|do it|on the|long|period |||||lange termijn en dit op de lange termijn te doen. and to do it in the long term.

MICHELE: Eh sì, è vero. |Oh|yes|it is|true MICHELE: Oh ja, dat is waar. MICHELE: Oh yes, that's true.

JACOPO: Questa è la grande difficoltà. JACOPO: This is the great difficulty.

Perché io quando lavoravo per Disney Channel because|I|when|I was working|for|Disney|Channel Omdat ik werkte voor Disney Channel Because when I worked for Disney Channel

c'erano gli articoli di giornale, there were|the|articles|of|newspaper waren er krantenartikelen, there were newspaper articles,

c'era un sacco di movimento. there was|a|lot|of|movement was er veel activiteit. there was a lot of movement.

Non mi piace parlare di fama, preferisco chiamarla esposizione mediatica. |||||||nennen||medial not|me|like|to talk|about|fame|I prefer|to call it|exposure|media |||||||het noemen van|expositie| I don't like to talk about fame, I prefer to call it media exposure.

Perché è una cosa che sale e scende e va a periodi. |||||steigt||sinkt|||| because|it is|a|thing|that|goes up|and|goes down||it goes|to|periods |||||stijgt|||||| Omdat het iets is dat komt en gaat en in perioden gebeurt. Because it's something that goes up and down and comes in waves.

La grande fortuna, the|big|fortune Het grote geluk, The great fortune,

e mi do un po' di merito nell'essermi fatto un mazzo così, |||||||dafür|gemacht||Mühe|so and|I|I give|a|bit|of|merit|for having|done|a|pack|like this |||||||in het feit dat|||| y me doy algo de credito por haber hecho una baraja como esta, en ik geef mezelf een beetje verdienste voor het feit dat ik zo hard heb gewerkt. and I give myself some credit for having worked so hard,

è che dal 1995 it is|that|since is that since 1995

ho iniziato a fare questo mestiere con Delia Scala di cui ti parlavo prima, |||||Handwerk|||||||| I have|started|to|to do|this|job|with|Delia|Scala|of|whom|you|I was talking|before ik ben begonnen met dit beroep met Delia Scala waar ik je eerder over vertelde, I started doing this job with Delia Scala whom I mentioned earlier,

siamo nel 2023 e sto ancora facendo questo mestiere. we are|in the|and|I am|still|doing|this|job we zijn in 2023 en ik doe dit beroep nog steeds. we are in 2023 and I am still doing this job.

Questa è la mia grande fortuna. this|it is|the|my|big|fortune Dit is mijn grote geluk. This is my great fortune.

Poi è vero che anche io arrotondo facendo altro. ||||||bijverdien|| dann||||||verdiene|tue|anderes then|it is|true|that|also|I|I round up|doing|other Dan is het waar dat ik ook een extraatje verdien met iets anders. Then it is true that I also supplement my income by doing other things.

Ma questo è ovvio, lo devono fare tutti. MICHELE: Certo. but|this|it is|obvious|it|they must|to do|everyone|MICHAEL|of course Maar dat is vanzelfsprekend, dat moet iedereen doen. MICHELE: Zeker. But this is obvious, everyone has to do it. MICHELE: Of course.

JACOPO: A meno che tu non sia Al Pacino. JACOPO: Tenzij je Al Pacino bent. JACOPO: Unless you are Al Pacino.

MICHELE: Sì, è vero. MICHELE: Yes, that's true.

JACOPO: Lasciamo stare quelli che stanno nell'Olimpo. ||||||im Olymp Jacopo|let's leave|to stay|those|who|they are|in Olympus ||laten we met rust||||op de Olympus JACOPO: Laten we diegenen die in de Olympus zijn met rust. JACOPO: Let's leave aside those who are in Olympus.

Elio Germano, bravissimo. Elio|Germano| Elio|Germano|sehr gut Elio Germano|| Elio|Germano|very good Elio Germano, zeer goed. Elio Germano, very good.

Probabilmente non ha bisogno di aggiungere altre cose. probably|not|he has|need|to|to add|other|things Waarschijnlijk heeft hij niet de behoefte om andere dingen toe te voegen. He probably doesn't need to add anything else.

Io ho imparato durante il lockdown, ||gelernt|||Lockdown I|I have|learned|during|the|lockdown |||||de lockdown I learned during the lockdown,

avevo un piccolo studio di registrazione con dei soci, I had|a|small|studio|of|recording|with|some|partners ||||||||partners ik had een kleine opnamestudio met partners, I had a small recording studio with some partners,

poi lo studio lo abbiamo chiuso then|it|studio|it|we have|closed toen hebben we het studio gesloten then we closed the studio

a un certo punto. at|a|certain|point op een gegeven moment. at a certain point.

E io facevo produzioni musicali. |||Produktionen|musikalische and|I|I was doing|productions|musical |||producties| And I was making music productions.

Ma lavoravo sempre col fonico. |arbeitete|||Tontechniker but|I was working|always|with the|sound engineer ||||geluidsman But I always worked with the sound engineer.

Ho iniziato a prendere lezioni, ho imparato a fare... I have|started|to|to take|lessons|I have|learned|to|to do I started taking lessons, I learned to do...

ovviamente se devo mixare un brano lo mando a un fonico vero, |||mischen||Stück||schicke|||| obviously|if|I have to|to mix|a|track|it|I send|to|a|audio engineer|true |||||nummer||stuur|||| évidemment, si je dois mixer une chanson, je l'envoie à un vrai ingénieur du son, natuurlijk, als ik een nummer moet mixen, stuur ik het naar een echte geluidsengineer, of course if I have to mix a track I send it to a real sound engineer,

però ho iniziato a fare anche questo. but|I have|started|to|to do|also|this mais j'ai aussi commencé à faire ça. maar ik ben ook begonnen met dit te doen. but I also started doing this.

Arrangiamenti, produzioni musicali, mix di podcast. Arrangements||||| arrangementen||||| arrangements|productions|musical|mix|of|podcasts Arrangements, productions musicales, mixage de podcasts. Arrangementen, muziekproducties, mix van podcasts. Arrangements, music productions, podcast mixing.

MICHELE: Ecco, vedi. MICHAEL|here is|you see MICHELE: Here, you see.

JACOPO: Sono cose che faccio quotidianamente. JACOPO|I am|things|that|I do|daily |||||dagelijks JACOPO: These are things I do daily.

Infatti mi porto in tournée le cuffie, il computer, la scheda audio... ||||||||||Karte| indeed|I|I bring|in|tour|the|headphones|the|computer||card|audio ||||||koptelefoon||||| In fact, I bring my headphones, computer, audio interface on tour...

di solito anche il microfono, ma a questo giro viaggiavo leggero in aereo |||||||||reiste||| of|usual|also|the|microphone|but|at|this|round|I was traveling|light|in|airplane ||||microfoon|||||ik reisde||| meestal ook de microfoon, maar deze keer reisde ik licht in het vliegtuig usually also the microphone, but this time I was traveling light by plane.

e non ho portato il microfono perché sono via dal 2 al 6. and|not|I have|carried|the|microphone|because|I am|away|from|to und ich habe mein Mikrofon nicht dabei, weil ich von 2 bis 6 unterwegs bin. en ik heb de microfoon niet meegenomen omdat ik van 2 tot 6 weg ben. and I didn't bring the microphone because I'm away from the 2nd to the 6th.

MICHELE: Non aveva senso. MICHAEL|Not|he had|sense MICHELE: Het had geen zin. MICHELE: It didn't make sense.

JACOPO: Non mi chiederanno di incidere un voice over in cinque giorni che sto via. |||||||hlas|dubbing|||||| |||werden fragen||aufnehmen||Voice|Voice-over|||||| JACOPO|not|me|they will ask|to|to record|a|voice|over|in|five|days|that|I am|away |||ze zullen vragen||||||||||| JACOPO: On ne me demandera pas d'enregistrer une voix off en cinq jours alors que je suis absent. JACOPO: Ze zullen me niet vragen om binnen vijf dagen een voice-over op te nemen terwijl ik weg ben. JACOPO: They won't ask me to record a voice over in the five days I'm away.

MICHELE: Certo. MICHELE: Bien sûr. MICHELE: Natuurlijk. MICHELE: Of course.

Però sì, come hai detto tu but|yes|as|you have|said|you Mais oui, comme tu l'as dit Maar ja, zoals je zei. But yes, as you said.

dipende anche da chi sei, cosa fai, it depends|also|from|who|you are|what|you do het hangt ook af van wie je bent, wat je doet, it also depends on who you are, what you do,

se sei Al Pacino ovviamente puoi campare solo di quello. if|you are|Al|Pacino|obviously|you can|to live|only|of|that si vous êtes Al Pacino bien sûr vous ne pouvez vivre que de cela. als je Al Pacino bent, kun je natuurlijk alleen daarvan leven. if you are Al Pacino, obviously you can live only on that.

È normale, no? it is|normal|no C'est normal, non? Het is normaal, toch? It's normal, right?

Sei una star hollywoodiana, hai fatto solo quello, |||hollywoodian|||| you are|a|star|Hollywood|you have|done|only|that |||Hollywoodster|||| Vous êtes une star hollywoodienne, vous n'avez fait que cela, Je bent een Hollywoodster, je hebt alleen dat gedaan, You are a Hollywood star, you have only done that,

hai fatto film di super successo, ci può stare. you have|made|movies|of|super|success|it|can|to stay je hebt super succesvolle films gemaakt, dat kan wel. you have made super successful films, it makes sense.

Però mi metto anche io nei tuoi panni but|I|I put|also|I|in the|your|shoes Maar ik kan me ook in jouw schoenen verplaatsen. But I also put myself in your shoes.

e nel mio caso io non faccio solo podcast. and|in the|my|case|I|not|I do|only|podcasts en in mijn geval maak ik niet alleen podcasten. And in my case, I don't just do podcasts.

In un certo senso sono dei lavori in cui devi creare In|a|certain|sense|they are|some|jobs|in|in which|you must|create In zekere zin zijn het banen waarin je moet creëren In a way, these are jobs where you have to create

qualcosa di costante e duraturo. something|of|constant|and|lasting ||||duurzaam iets dat constant en duurzaam is. something constant and lasting.

E non è facile. and|not|it is|easy And it's not easy.

E nei social, come hai detto tu, la fama può arrivare subito, and|in the|social|as|you have|said|you|the|fame|can|to arrive|immediately En op social media, zoals jij zei, kan beroemdheid snel komen, And on social media, as you said, fame can come quickly,

però poi devi mantenere la cosa e creare but|then|you must|to maintain|the|thing|and|to create maar daarna moet je het onderhouden en creëren but then you have to maintain it and create

qualcosa sia di profittevole che duraturo, |||profitabel|| something|it is|of||that|durable |||winstgevend|| iets wat zowel winstgevend als duurzaam is, something that is both profitable and lasting,

sia un qualcosa che ti piaccia fare. it is|a|something|that|you|you like|to do het moet iets zijn dat je leuk vindt om te doen. something that you enjoy doing.

Quindi mescolando il tutto a volte può sembrare facile, ma non lo è. |mischen||||||||||| so|mixing|the|everything|at|sometimes|it can|to seem|easy|but|not|it|it is Dus alles door elkaar mengen kan soms gemakkelijk lijken, maar dat is het niet. So mixing it all together can sometimes seem easy, but it is not.

Mia sorella per esempio lavora nei social, è una tiktoker. my|sister|for|example|she works|in the|social|she is|a|tiktoker Mijn zus bijvoorbeeld werkt in de sociale media, ze is een tiktoker. My sister, for example, works in social media; she is a TikToker.

Infatti mi ha avvisato lei. |||informiert| indeed|to me|he has|notified|she |||gewaarschuwd| Sie hat mich sogar gewarnt. In feite heeft zij mij gewaarschuwd. In fact, she was the one who notified me.

"Hai visto che è tornato Jacopo Sarno?" "Heb je gezien dat Jacopo Sarno terug is?" "Did you see that Jacopo Sarno is back?"

Perché lei ha una bella pagina su TikTok. because|she|she has|a|beautiful|page|on|TikTok Omdat zij een mooie pagina op TikTok heeft. Because she has a nice page on TikTok.

E mi fa: "Cavolo!" |||verdammt and|to me|he does|cabbage |||Cacete En hij zegt: "Verdorie!" And she says to me: "Wow!"

Poi ho visto che avevi anche una pagina su Instagram then|I have|seen|that|you had|also|a|page|on|Instagram Toen zag ik dat je ook een pagina op Instagram had Then I saw that you also had a page on Instagram

e ti ho contattato subito. |||kontaktiert| and|you|I have|contacted|immediately |||gecontacteerd| en ik heb je direct contact opgenomen. and I contacted you right away.

E anche lei, ovviamente la fama c'è, però devi mantenere la cosa. and|also|she|obviously|the|fame|there is|but|you must|to maintain|the|thing Et bien sûr, il y a aussi la renommée, mais tu dois maintenir la chose. En ook zij, uiteraard is er bekendheid, maar je moet het wel volhouden. And of course, there is fame, but you have to maintain it.

E non è facile. and|not|it is|easy Et ce n'est pas facile. En dat is niet gemakkelijk. And it's not easy.

JACOPO: Ci sono nuovi modi di comunicare JACOPO|there|are|new|ways|to|communicate JACOPO: Il existe de nouvelles façons de communiquer JACOPO: Er zijn nieuwe manieren van communiceren. JACOPO: There are new ways of communicating.

e bisogna sfruttarli facendo qualcosa. ||sie ausnutzen|| and|one must|to exploit them|by doing|something ||ze benutten|| and we need to make the most of them by doing something.

Sai chi è bravissimo? do you know|who|he is|very good Do you know who is really good?

MICHELE: Dimmi. MICHELE: Tell me.

JACOPO: Che stimo tanto, vabbè è anche un amico, JACOPO: Ich respektiere ihn sehr, er ist auch ein Freund, JACOPO: Die ik zo waardeer, nou ja, het is ook een vriend, JACOPO: Someone I really admire, well he's also a friend,

quindi se parlo bene di qualcuno vuol dire che è anche una bella persona. so|if|I speak|well|of|someone|he wants|to say|that|he is|also|a|beautiful|person dus als ik goed praat over iemand betekent het dat het ook een mooi persoon is. so if I speak well of someone it means they are also a nice person.

È bravissimo ed è stato bravissimo a passare dall'essere trendy, |||||||||trendy he is|very good|and|he is|has been|very good|to|to pass|from being|trendy |||||||||trendy Hij is geweldig en hij was geweldig in de overstap van trendy zijn, He is very good and he was very good at transitioning from being trendy,

cioè dall'essere trendsetter diciamo, ||Trendsetter| that is|from being|trendsetter|let's say ||trendsetter| c'est-à-dire être un précurseur, disons, that is, from being a trendsetter, let's say,

all'essere uno con un'esperienza, un mestiere alle spalle non indifferenti. |||||||||niet onbelangrijk das Sein|||||||||unbedeutend to be|one|with|an experience|many|profession|behind|shoulders|not|indifferent à être quelqu'un avec une expérience, un métier derrière lui non négligeable. to being someone with significant experience and a profession behind him.

Francesco Sole. Francesco|Sun Francesco Sole. Francesco Sole.

MICHELE: Francesco Sole, sì. MICHAEL|Francis|Sun|yes MICHELE: Francesco Sole, yes.

JACOPO: Francesco Sole è bravissimo. Jacopo|Francesco|Sun|he is|very good JACOPO: Francesco Sole is very talented.

A parte che è una persona di una grandissima profondità. |||||||||Tiefe At|part|that|he is|a|person|of|a|very great|depth |||||||||diepgang Besides, he is a person of great depth.

È piacevolissimo starci assieme e tutto il resto. |sehr angenehm|da sein||||| it is|very pleasant|to be there|together|and|everything|the|rest |heel plezierig|||||| |||junto|||| It is very pleasant to be with him and everything else.

Ma lui è uno degli autori dei top seller. ||||||||Verkäufer but|he|he is|a|of the|authors|of the|top|sellers But he is one of the authors of the best sellers.

Uno dei libri più venduti è il suo ultimo uscito. one|of the|books|most|sold|it is|the|his|last|released One of the best-selling books is his latest release.

Sta infilando un successo dopo l'altro |infilieren|||| he is|slipping|a|success|after|the other He is racking up one success after another.

a livello editoriale. ||editorial at|level|editorial On a publishing level.

MICHELE: Questo non lo sapevo. MICHELE: I didn't know that.

JACOPO: Poi ha tutta la parte social che fa parte del suo percorso Jacopo|Then|he has|all|the|part|social|which|he does|part|of the|his|path JACOPO: Then he has the whole social media aspect that is part of his journey

e fa parte della sua immagine, del suo profilo artistico però. |||||Bild|||Profil|künstlerischen| and|it does|part|of the|her|image|of the|his|profile|artistic|however and is part of his image, of his artistic profile though.

Questo è per me l'esempio di uno this|it is|for|me|the example|of|one This is for me the example of one

che ha usato i canali nuovi who|has|used|the|channels|new who has used new channels

in modo intelligente in|way|intelligent in an intelligent way

costruendo veramente un mestiere solido. |||Handwerk|solides building|really|a|profession|solid really building a solid profession.

MICHELE: Che poi, Francesco Sole è uno di quei personaggi che ha avuto tantissimi haters. MICHELE|that|then|Francesco|Sun|he is|one|of|those|characters|who|he has|had|very many| MICHELE: Then, Francesco Sole is one of those characters who has had a lot of haters.

Sui social. JACOPO: Tantissimi. on the|social media|JACOPO|very many On social media. JACOPO: A lot.

MICHELE: Ed è ammirevole come, nonostante tutto, |||bewundernswert||| MICHAEL|And|it is|admirable|how|despite|everything MICHELE: And it's admirable how, despite everything,

abbia avuto la forza di continuare e creare qualcosa di solido, no? he has|had|the|strength|to|to continue|and|to create|something|of|solid|not he had the strength to continue and create something solid, right?

Non è facile. not|it is|easy It's not easy.

A volte, come dici tu, dicevi a tua madre di lasciar stare. ||||||||||lassen| at|sometimes|like|you say|you|you said|to|your|mother|to|to let|to stay Manchmal, so sagst du, hast du deiner Mutter gesagt, sie solle es sein lassen. Soms, zoals jij zegt, zei je tegen je moeder om het te laten zitten. Sometimes, as you said, you told your mother to let it go.

Però sai, lascia stare oggi, lasciare stare domani... but|you know|let|stay|today|to leave|to leave|tomorrow Maar je weet het, laat het vandaag zitten, laat het morgen zitten... But you know, leave it today, leave it tomorrow...

per alcune persone questa cosa può diventare pesante. for|some|people|this|thing|can|to become|heavy voor sommige mensen kan dit zwaar worden. for some people this can become heavy.

È ammirevole. |bewundernswert it is|admirable |bewonderenswaardig Het is bewonderenswaardig. It's admirable.

JACOPO: Io adesso me li coccolo gli haters. ||jetzt|||kümmern|| Jacopo|I|now|me|them|I cuddle|the|haters |||||verwen|| JACOPO: Maintenant je vais dorloter mes détracteurs. JACOPO: Ik koester nu de haters. JACOPO: Now I pamper the haters.

Perché ho scritto e prodotto una canzone because|I have|written|and|produced|a|song Parce que j'ai écrit et produit une chanson Omdat ik een lied heb geschreven en geproduceerd. Because I wrote and produced a song.

per le Donatella. ||Donatella for|the|Donatella pour les Donatella. for the Donatella.

È uscita due estati fa. |||Sommer| it is|released|two|summers|ago Het is twee zomers geleden uitgebracht. It was released two summers ago.

Si intitolava "Moralisti su Pornhub". ||Moralisten||Pornhub introduced|it was titled|Moralisers|on|Pornhub Sie trug den Titel "Moralisten auf Pornhub". Het heette "Moralisten op Pornhub". It was titled "Moralists on Pornhub".

Ovviamente è un pezzo dell'estate ||||des Sommers obviously|it is|a|piece|of the summer Bien sûr, c'est un morceau d'été Natuurlijk is het een nummer van de zomer. Obviously, it's a summer piece

che è nato dal... that|it is|born|from the qui est né de... that was born from...

Perché non fare una canzone visto che c'è tutta sta gente why|not|to make|a|song|seen|that|there is|all|this|people Pourquoi ne pas faire une chanson alors qu'il y a tout ce monde Waarom niet een lied maken terwijl er al deze mensen zijn Why not make a song since there are all these people

che vi bombarda con i peggiori commenti? ||bombardiert|||schlechtesten| that|you|bombs|with|the|worst|comments die je bombardeert met de ergste opmerkingen? who bombard you with the worst comments?

Perché non dedichiamo una canzone a loro? ||widmen|||| because|not|let's dedicate|a|song|to|them ||we wijden|||| Waarom niet een lied aan hen wijden? Why don't we dedicate a song to them?

Perché non li prendiamo in giro fino in fondo? why|not|them|let's take|in|round|until|to|bottom Warum reizen wir sie nicht bis zum Äußersten? Waarom steken we ze niet volledig de draak? Why don't we make fun of them all the way?

Infatti c'è una parte del testo che dice: indeed|there is|a|part|of the|text|that|it says In feite is er een deel van de tekst dat zegt: In fact, there is a part of the lyrics that says:

"I tuoi commenti mi fanno pubblicità." the|your|comments|to me|they make|advertising "Jouw opmerkingen geven me publiciteit." "Your comments give me publicity."

Perché tu commenti le robe, ma alla fine... because|you|you comment|the|things|but|at the|end Omdat je dingen commentarieert, maar uiteindelijk... Because you comment on things, but in the end...

stai venendo sotto il mio profilo a commentare. you are|coming|under|the|my|profile|to|to comment kom je onder mijn profiel om te commentariëren. you're coming under my profile to comment.

MICHELE: A creare engagement. MICHELE: Créer de l'engagement. MICHELE: Om engagement te creëren. MICHELE: To create engagement.

JACOPO: Eh, engagement. MICHELE: È vero, è così. JACOPO: Eh, engagement. MICHELE: C'est vrai, c'est ainsi. JACOPO: Yeah, engagement. MICHELE: It's true, it is.

JACOPO: È scemo due volte. MICHELE: Esatto. ||dumm|||| JACOPO|he is|stupid|two|times|MICHELE|exactly ||dom|||| JACOPO: Il est bête deux fois. MICHELE: Exact. JACOPO: Hij is twee keer dom. MICHELE: Juist. JACOPO: He's twice as stupid. MICHELE: Exactly.

MICHELE: Sì, la cattiva pubblicità funziona. MICHELE: Ja, slechte reclame werkt. MICHELE: Yes, bad publicity works.

La usa anche Elon Musk. |||Elon|Musk |||Elon|Musk she|she uses|also|| |||Elon Musk| Elon Musk gebruikt het ook. Elon Musk uses it too.

La usano un sacco di persone. the|they use|a|lot|of|people A lot of people use it.

Quindi diciamo che so|let's say|that So let's say that

è sempre pubblicità. it is|always|advertising it's always advertising.

Che sia cattiva o buona, ti porta... ||schlecht|||| that|it is|bad|or|good|to you|it brings Whether it's bad or good, it brings you...

JACOPO: Sì, questo diciamo razionalmente. MICHELE: Certo. ||||rozumně|| ||||vernünftig|| Jacopo|Yes|this|we say|rationally|Michele|Of course JACOPO: Yes, we say this rationally. MICHELE: Of course.

JACOPO: Poi è anche vero che il cyber bullismo è terribile. |||||||kyber||| |||||||Cyber|Mobbing|| |Then|it is|also|true|that|the|cyber|bullying|it is|terrible ||||||||cyberpesten|| JACOPO: Dan is het ook waar dat cyberpesten verschrikkelijk is. JACOPO: Then it's also true that cyberbullying is terrible.

Ed è vero anche che, per quanto tu possa essere confident, ||||||||||sebevědomý ||||||||||zuversichtlich and|it is|true|also|that|for|how much|you|you can|to be|confident ||||||||||zelfverzekerd En het is ook waar dat, hoe zelfverzekerd je ook bent, And it's also true that, no matter how confident you may be,

cioè tu sai quello che vali, sai che fai un mestiere, |||||wert bist||||| that is|you|you know|what|that|you are worth|you know|that|you do|a|job |||||waard bent||||| dat je weet wat je waard bent, weet dat je een vak uitoefent, I mean, you know your worth, you know you have a job,

sai che non ti scalfisce nulla, ||||skrzne| ||||berührt| you know|that|not|you|it scratches|nothing ||||raakt je niet| Tu sais que rien ne t'atteint, you know that nothing can touch you,

ma comunque leggere certi commenti po' male fa. but|anyway|to read|certain|comments|a little|bad|does mais lire certains commentaires peut quand même faire mal. maar het lezen van bepaalde commentaren doet toch een beetje pijn. but still reading certain comments hurts a bit.

MICHELE: Sì, è un commento dove ti augurano la morte. JACOPO: Un po' male fa. MICHELE: Oui, c'est un commentaire où ils te souhaitent la mort. JACOPO: Ça fait quand même un peu mal. MICHELE: Ja, het is een commentaar waarin ze je de dood wensen. JACOPO: Het doet een beetje pijn. MICHELE: Yes, it's a comment where they wish you death. JACOPO: It hurts a bit.

JACOPO: Se fa male a te che magari in quel momento sei una persona di successo, Jacopo|If|he does|bad|to|you|that|maybe|at|that|moment|you are|a|person|of|success |||||||||||||||succesvol persoon JACOPO: Als het pijn doet voor jou omdat je misschien op dat moment een succesvolle persoon bent, JACOPO: If it hurts you, who might be a successful person at that moment,

pensa quanto può far male a uno che invece... think|how much|can|to make|pain|to|one|who|instead think about how much it can hurt someone who instead...

MICHELE: Un ragazzino. JACOPO: Ero contento MICHELE: A little boy. JACOPO: I was happy

di come stavano andando le cose quell'anno. ||||||in diesem Jahr of|how|they were|going|the|things|that year ||||||dat jaar hoe de dingen dat jaar gingen. with how things were going that year.

MICHELE: È vero, sono d'accordo. MICHAEL|it is|true|I am|agree MICHELE: Het is waar, ik ben het ermee eens. MICHELE: It's true, I agree.

Non tutti siamo uguali: c'è chi è più forte, chi meno. not|everyone|we are|equal|there is|who|he is|more|strong|who|less Niet iedereen is gelijk: sommigen zijn sterker, anderen minder. Not all of us are the same: some are stronger, some are weaker.

Ovviamente il cyber bullismo è un problema. obviously|the|cyber|bullying|it is|a|problem Natuurlijk is cyberpesten een probleem. Obviously, cyberbullying is a problem.

Una volta quando non c'erano i social, one|time|when|not|there were|the|social Vroeger, toen er geen sociale media waren, Once, when there were no social media,

tu facevi i tuoi prodotti, recitavi al cinema o nelle serie tv, you|you were making|the|your|products|you acted|in the|cinema|or|in the|series|TV maakte je jouw producten, acteerde je in films of in series, you made your products, acted in movies or TV series,

forse gli haters li sentivi di meno. maybe|the|haters|them|you felt|of|less maybe you felt the haters less.

Perché difficilmente sentivi questa cosa, ma adesso... because|hardly|you felt|this|thing|but|now Omdat je deze zaak moeilijk hoorde, maar nu... Because you hardly heard this, but now...

JACOPO: Non ti potevano contattare direttamente. JACOPO: Ze konden je niet direct contacteren. JACOPO: They couldn't contact you directly.

MICHELE: Oggi tutti possono esprimere la loro opinione. MICHAEL|today|everyone|they can|to express|the|their|opinion MICHELE: Vandaag kan iedereen zijn of haar mening uiten. MICHELE: Today everyone can express their opinion.

Da un lato è una cosa molto bella, on|a|side|it is|a|thing|very|beautiful Enerzijds is het een heel mooi ding, On one hand, it's a very nice thing,

perché tutti possiamo esprimere la nostra opinione, why|everyone|we can|to express|the|our|opinion omdat we allemaal onze mening kunnen uiten, because we can all express our opinion,

ma dall'altra parte può essere pericolosa come cosa. |||||gefährlich|| but|on the other|side|it can|to be|dangerous|as|thing maar aan de andere kant kan het ook gevaarlijk zijn. but on the other hand, it can be dangerous.

Se non è controllata. |||kontrolliert If|not|it is|controlled Als het niet gecontroleerd wordt. If it is not controlled.

Quindi è così purtroppo. |||leider so|it is|like this|unfortunately Dus zo is het helaas. So it is like this unfortunately.

Però va bene, ci prendiamo il bello e il brutto di ogni cosa. |||||||||schlechte||| but|it goes|well|we|we take|the|beautiful|and||ugly|of|every|thing Maar het is goed, we nemen het goede en het slechte van elke zaak. But it's okay, we take the good and the bad of everything.

Quello che alla fine ci sta regalando internet, anche il fatto di poter imparare qualcosa, ||||||regiert|||||||| that|which|at the|end|to us|it is|giving|internet|also|the|fact|to|to be able to|to learn|something ||||||geven|||||||| Waar internet ons uiteindelijk cadeau doet, ook het feit dat we iets kunnen leren, What the internet is ultimately giving us, even the fact of being able to learn something,

una lingua, qualsiasi cosa, no? a|language|any|thing|no een taal, wat dan ook, toch? a language, anything, right?

Possiamo imparare a suonare uno strumento, we can|to learn|to|to play|a|instrument We kunnen leren een instrument te bespelen, We can learn to play an instrument,

possiamo imparare a doppiare, possiamo veramente fare tutto online. we can|to learn|to|to dub||really|to do|everything|online we can learn to dub, we can really do everything online.

In modo diverso, però... In|way|different|but In a different way, though...

Ci sono dei lati positivi e negativi del lavorare o vivere nei social, no? |||Seiten|||||||||| there|are|some|sides|positive|and|negative|of the|to work|or|to live|in the|social|not Er zijn positieve en negatieve kanten aan het werken of leven op sociale media, nietwaar? There are positive and negative sides to working or living on social media, right?

È così. Vabbè dai. ||na gut| it is|like this|okay|come on Dat klopt. Goed dan. That's true. Well, come on.

Prendiamo quello che ci capita. let's take|that|what|to us|happens Laten we nemen wat op ons pad komt. Let's take what comes our way.

JACOPO: Viviamo in questo momento storico. MICHELE: È normale. JACOPO: We leven in dit historische moment. MICHELE: Het is normaal. JACOPO: We live in this historical moment. MICHELE: It's normal.

Sicuramente cambierà. surely|it will change Het zal zeker veranderen. It will surely change.

Migliorerà, peggiorerà, non lo so. |wird schlechter||| it will improve|it will worsen|not|it|I know |slechter zal worden||| Het zal verbeteren, verslechteren, ik weet het niet. It will get better, it will get worse, I don't know.

Però il momento è questo e va vissuto, no? but|the|moment|it is|this|and|it must|lived|right Aber der Moment ist da und muss gelebt werden, oder? Maar dit is het moment en het moet geleefd worden, nietwaar? But the moment is this and it must be lived, right?

Quindi è normale. so|it is|normal Dus het is normaal. So it's normal.

Io ti ringrazio per questa opportunità, davvero. ||danke|||| I|you|thank|for|this|opportunity|really Ik dank je voor deze kans, echt. I thank you for this opportunity, really.

Avrei voluto parlare molto di più con te, ma magari più avanti ti ricontatterò |||||||||||||werde ich kontaktieren I would have|wanted|to talk|much|of|more|with|you|but|maybe|more|later|you|I will contact again |||||||||||||opnieuw contacteren Ik had veel liever meer met je willen praten, maar misschien neem ik later contact met je op. I would have liked to talk much more with you, but maybe I'll get in touch with you again later.

perché secondo me hai tantissime cose da raccontarci. because|according to|me|you have|very many|things|to|to tell us Want naar mijn mening heb je ontzettend veel dingen te vertellen. Because I think you have so many things to tell us.

JACOPO: Grazie. MICHELE: E poi come ho detto prima, JACOPO: Bedankt. MICHELE: En zoals ik eerder zei, JACOPO: Thank you. MICHELE: And as I said before,

dietro le quinte per me è stato anche un piacere averti qui perché fai parte della mia infanzia ||scény||||||||||||||| behind|the|scenes|for|me|it is|has been|also|a|pleasure|to have you|here|because|you do|part|of the|my|childhood ||de coulissen|||||||||||||||kindertijd achter de schermen was het voor mij ook een plezier om je hier te hebben omdat je deel uitmaakt van mijn kindertijd behind the scenes it was also a pleasure for me to have you here because you are part of my childhood

come anche tanti miei coetanei, no? ||||Altersgenossen| like|also|many|my|peers|right zoals ook veel van mijn leeftijdsgenoten, toch? like many of my peers, right?