如 鲠 在 喉 ，卡 在 中共 喉咙 里 的 一块 硬 骨头 ；孟晚舟 引渡 判决 在 即 ，暴风雨 就要 来 了 ，下一个 肉票 会 是 美国人 吗 ？（字幕） （20210813 第 659期） (2) like|fishbone|in|throat|stuck|in|Chinese Communist Party|throat|inside|attributive marker|one|hard|bone|Meng Wanzhou|extradition|judgment|at|imminent|storm|is about to|come|emphasis marker|next|bargaining chip|will|be|American|question marker|(subtitles)|| Like a fishbone stuck in the throat, a hard bone lodged in the throat of the Chinese Communist Party; the extradition ruling for Meng Wanzhou is imminent, a storm is about to come, will the next meat ticket be an American? (Subtitle) (20210813 Episode 659) (2)

说 到 德国 和 法国 对此 你 也 是 无可奈何 say|to|Germany|and|France|regarding this|you|also|are|helpless As for Germany and France, you are also helpless about this. 所以 说 卡 在 中共 喉咙 里 的 这块 骨头 因为 无欲则刚 他 还是 块 硬 骨头 so|say|card|in|CCP|throat|inside|attributive marker|this|bone|because|no desire then strong|he|still|piece|hard|bone So the bone stuck in the throat of the Chinese Communist Party is still a hard bone because it is unyielding. 中共 拿 他 还是 真 没 办法 Chinese Communist Party|take|him|still|really|no|way The Chinese Communist Party really has no way to deal with him. 我 相信 中共 想 清楚 这 一点 很快 就 会 偃旗息鼓 低调 处理 了 I|believe|CCP|want|understand|this|point|soon|then|will|cease hostilities|low-key|handle|emphasis marker I believe that the Chinese Communist Party will soon realize this point and will quietly handle it. 这件 事 已经 作势 做 了 一些 姿态 吗 this|matter|already|pretend|do|past tense marker|some|posture|question marker Has this matter already made some gestures? 我 认为 到 此 就算 是 为止 了 I|think|to|this|even if|is|until|emphasis marker I think this is where it ends. 说 到 立陶宛人 那 可不是 好惹 的 say|to|Lithuanian|that|really not|easy to mess with|attributive marker Speaking of Lithuanians, they are not easy to mess with. 那 是 当初 第 1 个 脱离 前 苏联 that|is|at that time|the|unit marker|break away from|former|Soviet Union That was the first to break away from the former Soviet Union. 当时 爆发 的 那个 血腥 的 at that time|broke out|attributive marker|that|bloody|attributive marker At that time, the bloody event that broke out. 一月 事件 January|event The January incident. 同时 人们 表现 得 非常 的 英勇 at the same time|people|perform|adverb marker|very|attributive marker|brave At the same time, people showed great bravery. 这些 人 可不是 吓 大 的 These people are not easily scared. 在 下面 的 会员 节目 里 我 会 给 大家 讲讲 当年 的 这段 故事 in|below|attributive marker|member|program|in|I|will|give|everyone|talk about|back then|attributive marker|this segment|story In the upcoming membership program, I will share with everyone the story from back then. 讲讲 那个 一月 事件 talk about|that|January|event I will talk about the January incident. 下边 和 大家 聊聊 孟晚舟 below|and|everyone|chat|Meng Wanzhou Now, let's chat about Meng Wanzhou. 8 月 4 号 到 8 月 20 号 是 孟晚舟 引渡 案 的 最后 的 一次 听证会 ||to|||is|Meng Wanzhou|extradition|case|attributive marker|last|attributive marker|one|hearing The last hearing for the Meng Wanzhou extradition case is from August 4 to August 20. 也 是 整个 引渡 案 最后 阶段 的 庭审 also|is|entire|extradition|case|final|stage|attributive marker|trial It is also the final stage of the entire extradition case. 结束 了 这次 的 听证 接下来 那 就是 判决 的 结果 end|past tense marker|this time|attributive marker|hearing|next|that|is|judgment|attributive marker|result After this hearing ends, the next step will be the verdict. 我 看 了 现在 有 两种 说法 一种 是 I|see|past tense marker|now|have|two kinds|saying|one kind|is I see that there are currently two opinions, one is... 当 这个 听证会 结束 之后 法官 霍姆斯 就 会 做出 裁决 when|this|hearing|ends|after|judge|Holmes|then|will|make|ruling After this hearing ends, Judge Holmes will make a ruling. 这样 就 意味着 在 月底 之前 this way|then|means|before|end of the month|before This means that before the end of the month, 法官 就 会 做出 是否 引渡 的 判决 结果 judge|then|will|make|whether|extradition|attributive marker|judgment|result the judge will make a decision on whether to extradite. 而 另 一种 说法 是 说 判决 可能 会 拖 一段时间 but|another|one kind|saying|is|that|judgment|may|will|drag|some time Another possibility is that the ruling may take some time. 晚些时候 才能 出来 later|can|come out It will come out later. 但是 媒体 普遍 认为 but|media|generally|believe However, the media generally believes. 在 月底 之前 作出 判决 的 可能性 是 非常 大 at|end of the month|before|make|judgment|attributive marker|possibility|is|very|big The possibility of a ruling being made before the end of the month is very high. 甚至 有 一 说 在 10 天 之内 做出 裁决 的 可能性 是 很大 even|there is|one|say|within|days|inside|make|decision|attributive marker|possibility|is|very high There is even a saying that the possibility of a decision being made within 10 days is quite high. 但是 在 这儿 要 必须 和 大家 说 清楚 but|at|here|need|must|with|everyone|say|clearly But I must make it clear to everyone here. 即使 霍姆斯 法官 作出 了 引渡 的 这个 判决 even if|Holmes|judge|make|past tense marker|extradition|attributive marker|this|ruling Even if Judge Holmes has made this extradition ruling, 那 也 并 不 意味着 立刻 就 把 这个 人 给 送到 美国 去 that|also|not|not|mean|immediately|just|to|this|person|to|send to|America|to it does not mean that this person will be sent to the United States immediately. 孟晚舟 还是 可以 上诉 的 Meng Wanzhou|still|can|appeal|attributive marker Meng Wanzhou can still appeal. 按照 加拿大 法律 的 规定 according to|Canada|law|attributive marker|regulations According to Canadian law. 如果 这次 BC 省 的 法官 裁定 孟晚舟 引渡 去 美国 受审 if|this time|||attributive marker|judge|ruled|Meng Wanzhou|extradite|to|United States|stand trial If the judge in British Columbia rules to extradite Meng Wanzhou to the United States for trial. 孟晚舟 可以 就 这 一 裁定 而 提出 上诉 Meng Wanzhou|can|regarding|this|one|ruling|and|file|appeal Meng Wanzhou can appeal this ruling. 他 可以 先 在 BC 省 来 提出 上诉 he|can|first|in|||to|file|appeal He can first file an appeal in British Columbia. 当然 上诉 如果 维持 现在 霍姆斯 法官 的 原判 的话 of course|appeal|if|uphold|now|Holmes|judge|attributive marker|original ruling|if Of course, if the appeal maintains the current ruling of Judge Holmes, 到时候 法官 就 会 把 这个 引渡 的 裁定 提交 给 加拿大 司法部 部长 at that time|judge|then|will|put|this|extradition|attributive marker|ruling|submit|to|Canada|Department of Justice|minister then the judge will submit this extradition ruling to the Minister of Justice of Canada, 请 他 来 批准 please|him|come|approve asking him to approve it. 如果 司法部 部长 批准 了 对 孟晚舟 的 引渡 if|Ministry of Justice|minister|approve|past tense marker|towards|Meng Wanzhou|attributive marker|extradition If the Minister of Justice approves the extradition of Meng Wanzhou, 孟晚舟 还 可以 就 司法部长 的 那个 决定 来 进行 上诉 Meng Wanzhou|still|can|regarding|Attorney General|attributive marker|that|decision|to|conduct|appeal Meng Wanzhou can appeal the decision of the Attorney General. 所以 说 这个 案件 最终 可能 就要 打 到 最高法院 so|say|this|case|ultimately|possibly|will|go to|to|Supreme Court So this case may ultimately go to the Supreme Court. 这 也 就 意味着 在 真正 引渡 孟晚舟 之前 还要 经过 三道 程序 this|also|just|means|before|actual|extradition|Meng Wanzhou|before|still need to|go through|three|procedures This also means that before the actual extradition of Meng Wanzhou, there are still three procedures to go through. 本省 进行 上诉 的 这 是 一道 this province|conduct|appeal|attributive marker|this|is|one The appeal in this province is one of them. 上诉 维持 原判 以后 要 把 那个 裁决书 送给 司法部长 由 他 来 签字 这是 第二道 appeal|maintain|original judgment|after|need|to|that|judgment document|send to|Minister of Justice|by|he|to|sign|this is|second The appeal maintains the original judgment, and then the ruling document must be sent to the Minister of Justice for his signature. This is the second step. 司法部长 批 了 孟晚舟 还是 不服 那 就 到 最高法院 再次 上诉 Attorney General|criticized|past tense marker|Meng Wanzhou|still|dissatisfied|then|just|to|Supreme Court|again|appeal If the Minister of Justice approves it but Meng Wanzhou is still not satisfied, then it goes to the Supreme Court for another appeal. 这 就是 三道 手续 this|is|three|procedures This is the third procedure. 包括 这么 include|so this way Including this one. 复杂 的 上诉 的 过程 complex|attributive marker|appeal|attributive marker|process The complex process of appeal 所以 这件 事 可能 so|this|matter|possible So this matter may 还会 再 拖 上 几年 still will|again|drag|on|several years still drag on for a few more years 所以 说 这次 的 判决 并 不是 最终 的 裁决 so|say|this time|attributive marker|judgment|and|not|final|attributive marker|ruling So this judgment is not the final ruling 但是 but But 它 仍然 具有 强烈 的 指标 意义 it|still|has|strong|attributive marker|indicator|significance it still has strong indicative significance 否则 的话 中共 也 不会 在 这个 听证会 的 同时 就 收拾 那 两个 加拿大人 otherwise|if|Chinese Communist Party|also|would not|at|this|hearing|attributive marker|at the same time|just|deal with|those|two|Canadians otherwise the CCP wouldn't have dealt with those two Canadians at the same time as this hearing 这 也 说明 这个 第 1 次 的 判决 是 非常 重要 的 this|also|indicates|this|the|time|attributive marker|judgment|is|very|important|attributive marker this also indicates that this first ruling is very important 这 就 给 这件 事 定 了 性 this|just|give|this|matter|determine|past tense marker|nature This settles the matter. 一旦 裁定 后面 应该 是 很 难 翻身 的 once|ruling|afterwards|should|be|very|difficult|turn over|attributive marker Once the ruling is made, it will be very difficult to turn things around. 到 这儿 评论 几句 to|here|comment|a few sentences Let's comment a few words here. 说 到 孟晚舟 say|to|Meng Wanzhou Speaking of Meng Wanzhou. 前 一段时间 ago|a period of time Some time ago 她 已经 是 一张 废牌 she|already|is|one|useless card She was already a discarded card 说 到 2018 年 12 月 4 号 抓 她 的 时候 say|to|year|month|day|catch|her|attributive marker|time Speaking of the time when she was arrested on December 4, 2018 当时 为了 啥 at that time|for the sake of|what What was the reason at that time? 就是 为了 打 华为 just|in order to|hit|Huawei It is just to fight Huawei. 回顾 一下 2018 年 那 时候 的 华为 review|briefly|year 2018|that|time|attributive marker|Huawei Let's review Huawei back in 2018. 当时 刚刚 击败 了 苹果 at that time|just|defeated|past tense marker|Apple At that time, it had just defeated Apple. 成为 了 排名 世界 第 2 的 高科技 企业 become|past tense marker|ranking|world|ordinal marker|attributive marker|high-tech|enterprise It became the second-ranked high-tech company in the world. 当时 一年 的 营收 超过 了 1000 亿 美元 at that time|one year|attributive marker|revenue|exceeded|past tense marker|billion|US dollars At that time, the annual revenue exceeded 100 billion dollars. 和 前 一年 相比 增加 了 20% 以上 and|previous|year|compared to|increase|past tense marker|more than Compared to the previous year, it increased by more than 20%. 当时 的 华为 可是 一个 不可一世 的 庞然大物 at that time|attributive marker|Huawei|but|one|invincible|attributive marker|behemoth At that time, Huawei was an invincible giant. 但是 你 看 现在 的 华为 它 基本 就算 是 残 了 But look at Huawei now, it is basically considered crippled. 说 在 国际 上 现在 华为 的 市场 占有率 已经 低于 百分之四 say|at|international|on|now|Huawei|attributive marker|market|market share|already|below|four percent It is said that Huawei's market share internationally is now below 4%. 就是 在 国内 just|in|domestic This is also true domestically. 通过 前 几天 的 那个 through|previous|few days|attributive marker|that Through the incident from a few days ago, 叶檀 犯贱 事件 Ye Tan|act cheap|incident the Ye Tan scandal. 说明 整个 的 民意 explain|entire|attributive marker|public opinion It indicates the overall public opinion. 已经 反转 already|reverse It has already reversed. 华为 在 国内 现在 已经 也 死 的 差不多 了 Huawei|in|domestic|now|already|also|dead|attributive marker|almost|emphasis marker Huawei is now almost dead domestically. 你 想当初 他 吹 什么 海思 芯片 鸿蒙 系统 等等 吧 you|back then|he|boast|what|HiSilicon|chip|HarmonyOS|system|etc|right Remember how they used to boast about the HiSilicon chips and HarmonyOS, etc. 当时 一通 的 挑逗 撩拨 那个 民意 at that time|one round of|attributive marker|teasing|provoking|that|public opinion At that time, a series of teasing and provocation stirred public opinion. 结果 现在 人们 知道 那 都 是 忽悠 那 都 是 鬼扯 As a result, people now know that it was all just a deception, all nonsense. 就是 他 一直 吹嘘 的 那个 5g it is|he|always|brag|attributive marker|that|5g It's the 5G that he has been bragging about. 对 现在 人们 的 生活 也 没 产生 什么 具体 的 towards|now|people|attributive marker|life|also|not|produce|any|specific|attributive marker It hasn't really made any concrete impact on people's lives now. 影响 influence Impact 特别 是 后来 的 那个 李红元 251 事件 especially|is|later|attributive marker|that|Li Hongyuan|incident Especially the later Li Hongyuan 251 incident 什么 叫 251 呀 what|is called|emphasis marker What is 251? 因为 一点儿 事关 了 人家 251 天 当时 就 暴露 了 华为 那种 野蛮 残暴 because|a little|related to|past tense marker|others|days|at that time|then|expose|past tense marker|Huawei|that kind of|barbaric|brutal Because of a small matter, it involved someone for 251 days, which at that time exposed Huawei's kind of barbaric cruelty. 粗暴 的 企业 文化 rough|attributive marker|corporate|culture Rough corporate culture 这 华为 在 国内 的 那个 形象 this|Huawei|in|domestic|attributive marker|that|image This is Huawei's image in the domestic market 也 基本 完 了 also|basically|done|emphasis marker It has basically come to an end 说 到 华为 现在 已经 这样 say|to|Huawei|now|already|like this Speaking of Huawei, it is already like this now 这个 孟晚舟 的 实际 的 意义 也 就 不大 了 this|Meng Wanzhou|attributive marker|actual|attributive marker|meaning|also|just|not much|emphasis marker The actual significance of this Meng Wanzhou is not great. 所以 在 前 一段时间 so|at|before|a period of time So, some time ago, 美国 方面 也 提出 United States|aspect|also|propose the American side also proposed 只要 她 能 认 一些 比较 轻 的 罪名 就 可以 放 她 回国 了 as long as|she|can|admit|some|relatively|light|attributive marker|charges|then|can|release|her|return to the country|emphasis marker that as long as she can admit to some lighter charges, she can be allowed to return to her country. 但是 那 华为 和 孟晚舟 本人 but|that|Huawei|and|Meng Wanzhou|herself But that Huawei and Meng Wanzhou herself 鸡血 上头 吗 chicken blood|high excited|question marker Is it like being on a high from chicken blood? 现在 他们 已经 背上 了 党国 和 所有 老小 粉红 的 脸面 now|they|already|carry on their backs|past tense marker|party-state|and|all|old and young|pink|attributive marker|face Now they have already shouldered the face of the party and the country, as well as all the old and young pinks. 当时 就 断然 拒绝 at that time|then|absolutely|refuse At that time, they resolutely refused. 那 等于 现在 是 给 机会 不要 给 脸 不要脸 that|equals|now|is|give|opportunity|do not|give|face|shameless That means now it's about giving opportunities, not giving face, no face. 那 没 办法 那 你 就 打 官司 that|no|way|then|you|just|file|lawsuit Well, there's no way, then you just have to sue. 当时 不是 说 不能 放 你 你 得 认 一些 罪名 这个 也 不 接受 At that time, it was said that you couldn't be released, you had to admit to some charges, and this is also not accepted. 那 孟晚舟 现在 对 美国 意义 已经 不大 了 that|Meng Wanzhou|now|to|America|significance|already|not much|emphasis marker Now, Meng Wanzhou no longer holds much significance for the United States. 但 对 中共 来说 这 意义 可 就 大 了 but|for|CCP|speaking|this|significance|can|just|big|emphasis marker But for the Chinese Communist Party, this is of great significance. 说 到 当初 的 那个 过度 操作 过度 炒作 结果 把 党国 的 脸面 和 尊严 say|to|at that time|attributive marker|that|excessive|operation|excessive|hype|result|to|party-state|attributive marker|face|and|dignity Speaking of the initial excessive manipulation and hype, it resulted in the party's face and dignity. 和 孟晚舟 和 华为 就 都 捆 在 了 一处 了 and|Meng Wanzhou|and|Huawei|just|all|tie|at|emphasis marker|one place|emphasis marker And Meng Wanzhou and Huawei are all tied together. 现在 已经 下 不 来 台 now|already|come down|not|come|stage Now, they can no longer back down. 你 就 看 这 几天 不惜代价 的 野蛮 操作 完全 就是 土匪 you|just|see|these|few days|at all costs|attributive marker|barbaric|operation|completely|is just|bandit You just look at these days' reckless operations at any cost, it's completely bandit-like. 连 起码 的 国家 的 脸面 都 不要 even|at least|attributive marker|country|attributive marker|face reputation|all|do not want They don't even care about the basic dignity of the country. 可见 这件 事 对 中共 来说 有 多大 it can be seen|this|matter|to|Chinese Communist Party|for|has|how big It shows how significant this matter is for the Chinese Communist Party. 正 因为 中共 是 如此 的 在乎 just|because|Chinese Communist Party|is|so|attributive marker|care about It is precisely because the CCP cares so much. 结果 反而 让 这张 废牌 对 美国 来说 又 有 了 价值 result|instead|make|this|useless card|to|America|to say|again|have|emphasis marker|value As a result, this worthless card has gained value for the United States. 为什么 呀 why|emphasis marker Why is that? 就 因为 你 在乎 just|because|you|care Just because you care. 所以 这 就 变成 了 又 一个 打击 你 的 武器 so|this|just|become|past tense marker|again|one|blow|you|attributive marker|weapon So it has become yet another weapon to strike you. 如果 正常 情况 在 月底 前 判决 的话 if|normal|situation|at|end of the month|before|judgment|if If the judgment is made before the end of the month under normal circumstances 就 正好 和 病毒 报告 的 时间 就 重合 just|exactly|and|virus|report|attributive marker|time|then|coincide it will coincide perfectly with the timing of the virus report 还是 那 句话 still|that|sentence Still, the same thing 别 告诉 我 这些 都 是 巧合 don't|tell|me|these|all|are|coincidence Don't tell me these are all coincidences 那 这 是不是 一次 有意 的 超 极限 施压 呢 that|this|is or is not|one time|intentional|attributive marker|super|limit|pressure|emphasis marker So, is this an intentional extreme pressure? 那 就 只有 当事人 中共 自己 知道 了 that|only|only|parties involved|Communist Party of China|themselves|know|emphasis marker Only the parties involved, the Chinese Communist Party, would know. 暴风雨 就要 来 了 storm|is about to|come|emphasis marker A storm is about to come. 大家 想象 一下 everyone|imagine|for a moment Everyone, imagine for a moment. 一旦 这个 法官 宣布 孟晚舟 引渡 的话 once|this|judge|announce|Meng Wanzhou|extradition|if Once this judge announces the extradition of Meng Wanzhou, 尽管 他 不是 最终 的 裁决 although|he|is not|final|attributive marker|judgment even though he is not the final decision maker, 那 中共 会 有 怎样 的 反应 that|Communist Party of China|will|have|what kind of|attributive marker|reaction what kind of reaction will the Chinese Communist Party have? 我 想 一场 腥风血雨 是 即将 上演 那 还 不得 骂 出 天 去 I|want|one|bloody storm|is|about to|stage|then|still|cannot|curse|out|sky|go I think a bloody storm is about to unfold, and it will be a huge outcry. 同时 还有 病毒 报告 的 那条 线索 到 时 很 可能 在 一周 之内 at the same time|there is also|virus|report|attributive marker|that|clue|by|time|very|likely|within|one week|inside At the same time, there is a clue about the virus report that is likely to come within a week. 甚至 是 同一时间 even|is|the same time Even at the same time. 这 两场 暴风雨 会 同时 到来 是 捆 在 一起 我 想 届时 this|two|storms|will|simultaneously|arrive|is|tied|together|together|I|want|at that time These two storms will arrive simultaneously; I think at that time. 会 掀起 惊涛骇浪 will|stir up|tumultuous waves It will stir up great waves. 大家 想象 一下 那个 场面 啊 到时候 中共 将 愤怒 抓狂 到 什么 程度 everyone|imagine|for a moment|that|scene|emphasis marker|at that time|Chinese Communist Party|will|angry|go crazy|to|what|extent Everyone, imagine what that scene will be like. At that time, how furious and crazy the Chinese Communist Party will be. 刚刚 的 新闻 just now|attributive marker|news Just now, the news. 美国 的 副 国务卿 希尔 曼 会见 了 秦刚 The U.S. Deputy Secretary of State, Sherman, met with Qin Gang. 说 那 这 是 一次 不 公开 的 会面 say|that|this|is|one time|not|public|attributive marker|meeting It was said that this was a private meeting. 会后 谢尔曼 透露 after the meeting|Sherman|revealed After the meeting, Sherman revealed. 他 回顾 了 上个月 在 天津 和 中共 官员 会晤 时 当时 他 提出 的 那些 问题 he|reviewed|past tense marker|last month|in|Tianjin|and|Communist Party|officials|meeting|when|at that time|he|raised|attributive marker|those|questions He reviewed the issues he raised during his meeting with Chinese Communist officials in Tianjin last month. 说白了 吧 就是 建立 危机 管控 安全 机制 的 问题 to put it bluntly|emphasis marker|it is|to establish|crisis|control|safety|mechanism|attributive marker|issue To put it simply, it is about establishing a crisis management and security mechanism. 其实 这 二位 那 就是 未来 的 一个 常设 的 管道 了 actually|this|two people|that|is|future|attributive marker|one|permanent|attributive marker|channel|emphasis marker In fact, these two will serve as a permanent channel in the future. 尽管 这 二位 级别 都 不 高 但 作为 双方 最高 领导人 的 特使 although|this|two|level|both|not|high|but|as|both sides|highest|leader|attributive marker|envoy Although both of these individuals are not of high rank, as envoys of the highest leaders of both sides, 是 可以 直接 反映 问题 做 直接 的 交流 is|can|directly|reflect|problem|do|direct|attributive marker|communication they can directly reflect issues and engage in direct communication. 这 两个 人 看来 呢 在 一块 还 能 好好 说话 因为 秦刚 事后 也 接受 了 自由 亚洲 的 采访 this|two|people|it seems|emphasis marker|at|together|still|can|properly|talk|because|Qin Gang|afterwards|also|accepted|past tense marker|free|Asia|attributive marker|interview It seems that these two can still communicate well together, as Qin Gang also accepted an interview with Radio Free Asia afterwards. 话 说 得 比较 温和 words|speak|manner|relatively|gentle The conversation was relatively mild. 主动 地 介绍 了 一些 情况 actively|adverbial marker|introduce|past tense marker|some|situation Proactively introduced some situations. 都 挺 好 的 啊 谈得 还 行 all|quite|good|emphasis marker|emphasis marker|talk|still|okay Everything is pretty good, the conversation went well. 所以 我 认为 这 二人 就是 未来 所谓 的 那个 常设 的 热线 so|I|believe|this|two people|is|future|so-called|attributive marker|that|permanent|attributive marker|hotline So I believe these two people are the so-called permanent hotline for the future. 当然 我 想 在 会晤 期间 也 会 透露 一些 这次 北戴河 的 一些 消息 of course|I|want|during|meeting|period|also|will|reveal|some|this|Beidaihe|attributive marker|some|news Of course, I think I will also reveal some news from this Beidaihe meeting during the discussions. 现在 肯定 的 信息 now|definitely|attributive marker|information Now there is definitely information. 北戴河 会议 Beidaihe|meeting Beidaihe meeting. 已经 结束 already|end Has already ended. 有 朋友 传来 的 照片 那边 的 封锁 基本 已经 解除 了 have|friend|send|attributive marker|photo|over there|attributive marker|lockdown|basically|already|lifted|past tense marker Friends have sent photos that the blockade over there has basically been lifted. 这个 北戴河 会议 应该 是 已经 正式 结束 this|Beidaihe|meeting|should|is|already|officially|end The Beidaihe meeting should have officially concluded. 说 到 那位 秦刚 当时 一到 美国 就 自我 隔离 say|to|that|Qin Gang|at that time|as soon as|America|then|self|quarantine Speaking of that Qin Gang, he immediately self-isolated upon arriving in the United States. 我 想 因为 当时 大事 未定 北戴河 那边 还 都 没定 的 I think it was because major issues were still undecided at that time, and Beidaihe had not made any decisions. 你 就是 见面 说 也 没什么 可说 的 you|just|meet|say|also|nothing|to talk about|attributive marker Even if you meet, there isn't much to talk about. 现在 那边 北戴河 结束 他 也 正好 结束 隔离 出来 now|over there|Beidaihe|end|he|also|just|end|quarantine|come out Now over there in Beidaihe, he also just finished his quarantine and came out. 出来 的 第 1 天 就 跑 来 见 谢尔曼 come out|attributive marker|ordinal marker|day|then|run|come|see|Sherman On the first day out, he ran over to see Sherman. 你 也 别 告诉 我 这 是 巧合 you|also|don't|tell|me|this|is|coincidence Don't tell me this is a coincidence. 周日 了 咱们 详细 说 这部分 Sunday|emphasis marker|we|in detail|talk|this part It's Sunday, let's talk about this part in detail. 说 说 北戴河 会议 之后 中美关系 的 走向 Talk about the direction of China-US relations after the Beidaihe meeting. 现在 还是 有 now|still|have There are still some. 很强 的 迹象 very strong|attributive marker|signs Very strong signs. 最后 呢 咱们 说 几句 这个 人质 外交 finally|emphasis marker|we|say|a few words|this|hostage|diplomacy Finally, let's say a few words about this hostage diplomacy. 在 我 的 印象 里 in|my|attributive marker|impression|inside In my impression 当年 苏联 和 美国 在 冷战 期间 back then|Soviet Union|and|United States|during|Cold War|period Back then, the Soviet Union and the United States during the Cold War 苏联 都 没有 干过 这样 的 龌龊 事 Soviet Union|at all|have not|done|such|attributive marker|dirty|things The Soviet Union never did such a dirty thing 据说 在 一个 讲座 上 当时 有人 问 秦晖 教授 it is said|at|one|lecture|on|at that time|someone|asked|Qin Hui|professor It is said that at a lecture, someone asked Professor Qin Hui 说 苏联 垮台 之后 你 像 苏联 当时 的 金灿荣 胡锡进 say|Soviet Union|collapse|after|you|like|Soviet Union|at that time|attributive marker|Jin Canrong|Hu Xijin After the collapse of the Soviet Union, you are like Jin Canrong and Hu Xijin from that time. 张维为 这些 人 他们 后来 干嘛 去 了 Zhang Weiwei|these|people|they|later|do what|go|emphasis marker What did people like Zhang Weiwei do later? 当时 秦 老师 那 就 愣 了 一下 说 at that time|Qin|teacher|then|just|stunned|emphasis marker|for a moment|said At that time, Teacher Qin was stunned for a moment and said, 苏联 还 没有 这么 不要脸 的 东西 Soviet Union|still|not have|this shameless|shameless|attributive marker|thing The Soviet Union didn't have such shameless things. 所以 说 到 当年 的 苏联 多少 还是 有点 品 的 So, speaking of the Soviet Union back then, it still had some style. 说 到 当时 苏联 没 干过 绑 人质 这么 不要脸 的 事 say|to|at that time|Soviet Union|not|done|kidnap|hostages|such|shameless|attributive marker|thing Speaking of the time, the Soviet Union never did such shameless things as kidnapping hostages. 但 说 到 中共 这 绑票 这 可是 传统 的 拿手好戏 了 but|say|to|CCP|this|kidnapping|this|but|traditional|attributive marker|specialty|emphasis marker But when it comes to the Chinese Communist Party, kidnapping is indeed a traditional specialty. 以前 打仗 的 时候 啊 before|fighting|attributive marker|time|emphasis marker Back in the days of fighting, ah. 斗地主 吗 抓 人家 地主 家里 拿 钱 来 赎 吧 这事 他 没少 干 land lord game|question marker|catch|others|landlord|at home|take|money|to|redeem|suggestion marker|this matter|he|often|do Playing Dou Di Zhu? Grab the landlord's money from their home to redeem it. This is something he has done many times. 说 到 后来 最早 的 人质 外交 say|to|later|earliest|attributive marker|hostage|diplomacy Speaking of which, the earliest hostage diplomacy. 抓 的 是 谁 抓 的 是 自己 人 catch|attributive marker|is|who|catch|attributive marker|is|self|person Who was captured? It was our own people. 你 像 什么 魏京生 王丹 刘晓波 等 人 you|like|what|Wei Jingsheng|Wang Dan|Liu Xiaobo|etc|people People like Wei Jingsheng, Wang Dan, Liu Xiaobo, etc. 他 来 祸害 迫害 自己 人 he|come|harm|persecute|oneself|person He comes to harm and persecute himself. 然后 来 和 看不下去 的 Then he comes and cannot stand it. 前来 营救 的 外国人 来 谈 条件 come|to rescue|attributive marker|foreigner|to|discuss|conditions Foreigners who come to rescue come to negotiate conditions. 你 不是 看 不了 吗 救 他们 吧 那 咱们 就 谈谈 吧 you|not|see|unable to|question marker|save|them|suggestion marker|then|we|just|talk|suggestion marker Can't you see? Save them, then let's talk. 绑 自己 人 来 要挟 外国 领导人 这 就是 中共 干 的 好事 bind|oneself|person|come|coerce|foreign|leader|this|is|CCP|do|attributive marker|good deed Kidnapping one's own people to blackmail foreign leaders, this is the good deed done by the CCP. 那 等到 了 习近平 这 一朝 那 就 开始 直接 抓 外国人 that|wait until|emphasis marker|Xi Jinping|this|one era|then|just|start|directly|catch|foreigners When it came to Xi Jinping's era, they started directly arresting foreigners. 就是 有 外国 身份 的 华人 到 现在 也 已经 没有 保护 也 不 安全 just|have|foreign|identity|attributive marker|Chinese people|until|now|also|already|no|protection|also|not|safe Even Chinese people with foreign identities now have no protection and are not safe. 这 在 以前 可是 this|at|before|but This was not the case before. 没有 过 的 not have|past experience marker|attributive marker Never happened. 这次 在 孟晚舟 听证会 期间 对 那 两个 加拿大人 进行 了 所谓 的 宣判 this time|during|Meng Wanzhou|hearing|period|against|those|two|Canadians|conduct|past tense marker|so-called|attributive marker|verdict This time during the Meng Wanzhou hearing, a so-called verdict was issued against those two Canadians. 明显 就是 一个 对应 的 绑票 行为 obvious|is|one|corresponding|attributive marker|kidnapping for ransom|behavior It is clearly a corresponding kidnapping act. 你 看到 后来 的 判决 中 在 那个 驱逐出境 前边 you|saw|later|attributive marker|judgment|in|at|that|deportation|before You can see in the later judgment before the deportation. 没有 加 任何 的 时间 定语 no|add|any|attributive marker|time|attributive No time adverb is added. 那 给 自己 都 留 点 余地 that|give|oneself|all|leave|some|leeway Then leave some room for yourself. 说 到 这次 你 霍姆斯 法官 你 要是 判 我 的 人 无罪 say|to|this time|you|Holmes|judge|you|if|judge|me|attributive marker|person|not guilty Speaking of this time, Judge Holmes, if you find my person not guilty. 那 我 就 可以 随时 把 你 的 人 驱逐 出境 that|I|then|can|at any time|把|you|attributive marker|person|expel|out of the country Then I can expel your person at any time. 十一年 五万 和 驱逐出境 eleven years|fifty thousand|and|deportation Eleven years, fifty thousand, and deportation. 这 三条 之间 不 一定 有 必然 的 联系 this|three items|between|not|necessarily|have|inevitable|attributive marker|connection These three points do not necessarily have a direct connection. 所以 说 说 到 中共 的 所谓 的 那个 法律 so|say|talk|about|CCP|attributive marker|so-called|attributive marker|that|law So when it comes to the so-called laws of the Communist Party of China, 根本 就是 一个 笑话 fundamentally|just|one|joke it is fundamentally a joke. 像 这种 人质 外交 明眼人 一看 都 知道 你 这么 干 like|this kind of|hostage|diplomacy|clear-sighted person|at a glance|all|know|you|like this|do Anyone with a discerning eye can see that this kind of hostage diplomacy is pointless. 是 没用 的 is|useless|attributive marker It is useless. 但 以 习近平 为什么 还要 执意 这么 干 but|by|Xi Jinping|why|still want to|insist on|this way|do But why does Xi Jinping insist on doing this? 我 认为 主要 还是 习近平 的 认知 问题 I|think|mainly|still|Xi Jinping|attributive marker|cognitive|issue I believe it mainly has to do with Xi Jinping's cognitive issues. 他 本人 他 就 不 相信 西方 的 那个 法治 he|himself|he|just|not|believe|Western|attributive marker|that|rule of law He himself does not believe in the rule of law in the West. 他 认为 只要 给 政府 施压 he|believes|as long as|give|government|apply pressure He believes that as long as pressure is applied to the government, 政府 那 就 能 影响 法院 就 能 命令 法院 government|that|then|can|influence|court|then|can|order|court the government can influence the courts and can order the courts. 这些 人 认为 西方 的 法治 就 和 他们 自己 是 一样 的 那 都 是 装样子 的 那 都 是 虚伪 的 these|people|believe|Western|attributive marker|rule of law|just|and|they|themselves|is|the same|attributive marker|that|all|are|pretend|attributive marker|that|all|are|hypocritical|attributive marker These people think that the rule of law in the West is the same as their own, that it is all just for show, that it is all hypocritical. 你 最后 都 得 听 党 都 得 听 政府 的 you|finally|all|must|listen|party|all|must|listen|government|attributive marker In the end, you have to listen to the Party, you have to listen to the government. 你 即使 在 美国 像 发生 了 川普 对 微信 对 抖音 发出 了 总统 的 禁令 you|even if|in|America|like|happen|past tense marker|Trump|towards|WeChat|towards|TikTok|issue|past tense marker|president|attributive marker|ban Even if you are in the United States, like when Trump issued a presidential ban on WeChat and TikTok. 结果 竟然 被 一个 地方 法官 就 给 挡下来 了 而且 总统 拿 他 还 没 办法 result|unexpectedly|by|one|local|judge|just|by|block|past tense marker|and|president|take|him|still|not|way As a result, it was surprisingly blocked by a local judge, and the president had no way to deal with it. 你 就是 发生 这样 的 事 中共 依然 不 相信 在 这个 世界 上 竟然 会 有 独立 的 司法 you|just|happen|such|attributive marker|matter|Chinese Communist Party|still|not|believe|in|this|world|on|unexpectedly|will|have|independent|attributive marker|judiciary Even in such situations, the Communist Party still does not believe that there can be an independent judiciary in this world. 制度 存在 他们 就是 不 信 system|exist|they|just|not|believe The system exists, but they just don't trust it. 所以 呢 他们 坚持 采用 这种 没有 意义 的 绑票 行为 so|emphasis marker|they|insist|adopt|this kind of|no|meaning|attributive marker|kidnapping|behavior So, they insist on adopting this meaningless kidnapping behavior. 这种 行为 作用 有限 但 影响 极坏 this|behavior|effect|limited|but|influence|extremely bad This behavior has limited effects but extremely bad impacts. 最后 25 国 的 外交官 是 集体 抗议 last|countries|attributive marker|diplomats|are|collective|protest In the end, the diplomats from 25 countries protested collectively. 大家 就 没有 人 能 相信 到 今天 还有 人 采用 这个 200 多 年 前 的 野蛮 的 做法 everyone|just|no|one|can|believe|until|today|still|people|adopt|this|more|years|ago|attributive marker|barbaric|attributive marker|practice No one can believe that even today there are people who still use this barbaric practice from over 200 years ago. 说来 这里 边 的 根源 就是 那帮 红卫兵 他们 根本 就 没有 办法 理解 这个 法治 社会 speaking of|here|side|attributive marker|source|is|that group|Red Guards|they|fundamentally|just|do not have|way|understand|this|rule of law|society The root of this issue lies with those Red Guards, who simply cannot understand this rule-of-law society. 他们 只 迷信 这种 手段 they|only|superstition|this kind of|means They are only superstitious about such means. 我 想 这 也 向 全世界 展示 I|want|this|also|to|the whole world|show I think this also demonstrates to the whole world. 在 这 帮 人 的 骨子里 at|this|group|people|attributive marker|deep down In the bones of these people 根本 就是 土匪 fundamentally|is|bandit they are fundamentally bandits. 你 想 拜登 说 习近平 在 骨子里 没有 一点 you|want|Biden|say|Xi Jinping|at|deep down|not have|a bit You want Biden to say that Xi Jinping fundamentally has no 民主 democracy democracy. 其实 何止 是 民主 actually|not just|is|democracy In fact, it's not just democracy. 在 他们 的 骨子里 at|their|attributive marker|deep down Deep down in their bones, 根本 就 没有 一点 现代 文明 fundamentally|just|not have|a bit|modern|civilization there is not a trace of modern civilization. 这 帮 人 就是 文革 时 的 那 帮 暴徒 和 土匪 就是 红卫兵 this|group|people|is|Cultural Revolution|time|attributive marker|that|group|thugs|and|bandits|is|Red Guards These people are just the same gang of thugs and bandits from the Cultural Revolution, they are the Red Guards. 说 到 当年 清朝 say|to|that year|Qing Dynasty Speaking of the Qing Dynasty back then 曾经 抓 过 外国 前来 谈判 的 外交使团 把 那个 巴夏里 什么 都 可以 扣起来 once|catch|past tense marker|foreign|come to|negotiate|attributive marker|diplomatic mission|emphasis marker|that|Bashar|anything|all|can|detain They once detained foreign diplomatic missions that came to negotiate, holding that Bashari and everything else. 结果 时隔 这么 多年 result|after|so|many years As a result, after so many years, 中国 到 现在 还 在 搞 那种 国家 绑票 China|until|now|still|in|do|that kind of|country|ransom China is still engaging in that kind of state kidnapping. 说 到 现在 这 一代人 那 真是 给 祖宗 扬名 露脸 了 say|to|now|this|generation|that|really|give|ancestors|make a name|show face|emphasis marker Speaking of this generation, they have truly brought glory and fame to their ancestors. 现在 的 澳大利亚 和 加拿大 now|attributive marker|Australia|and|Canada Now, Australia and Canada. 都 有 人质 在 中共 的 手心 里 all|have|hostages|in|Chinese Communist Party|attributive marker|palm|inside There are hostages in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. 随着 孟晚 舟 离 美国 是 越来越 近 了 我 认为 下一步 就 该 抓 几个 美国 的 肉票 as|Meng Wan|boat|from|America|is|more and more|close|emphasis marker|I|believe|next step|then|should|catch|several|American|attributive marker|meat tickets As Meng Wanzhou's departure from the United States gets closer, I believe the next step should be to capture a few American hostages. 预备 着 了 prepare|ongoing action marker|emphasis marker Prepared. 我 刚才 查 了 一下 在 华 美国 人 的 数量 I|just now|check|past tense marker|a bit|in|China|America|people|attributive marker|number I just checked the number of Chinese Americans. 说道 上次 的 人口普查 2010 年 那次 said|last time|attributive marker|population census|year 2010|that time Speaking of the last census, the one in 2010. 当时 还有 70000 多人 at that time|still have|many people At that time, there were over 70,000 people. 不 知道 过 了 这么 多年 还 剩下 多少 我 想 两三万 人 大概 几万人 not|know|past|emphasis marker|so|many years|still|remain|how many|I|want|twenty to thirty thousand|people|probably|tens of thousands of people I don't know how many are left after so many years, I think there are probably around twenty to thirty thousand people, maybe a few tens of thousands. 总是 有 的 吧 always|have|attributive marker|suggestion marker There must be some, right?