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Ted Talks, The 4 phases of retirement | Dr. Riley Moynes | TEDxSurrey

The 4 phases of retirement | Dr. Riley Moynes | TEDxSurrey

Transcriber: Zsófia Herczeg Reviewer: Peter Van de Ven

Everyone says you have to get ready to retire financially.

And of course you do.

But what they don't tell you is that you also have to get ready

psychologically.

Who knew?

But it's important for a couple of reasons.

First, 10,000 North Americans will retire today

and every day for the next 10 to 15 years.

This is a retirement tsunami.

And when these folks come crashing onto the beach,

a lot of them are going to feel like fish out of water

without a clue as to what to expect.

Secondly, it's important because there is a very good chance

that you will live one third of your life in retirement.

So it's important that you have a heads up to the fact

that there will be significant psychological changes

and challenges that come with it.

I belong to a walking group that meets early three mornings a week.

Our primary goal is to put 10,000 steps on our Fitbits,

and then we go for coffee and cinnamon buns -

(Laughter)

more important.

(Laughter) (Applause)

So as we walk, we've gotten into the habit of choosing a topic for discussion.

And one day, the topic was,

“How do you squeeze all that juice out of retirement?”

How's that for 7:00 in the morning?

So we walk and we talk, and the next day, we go on to the next topic.

But the question stayed with me

because I was really having some challenges with retirement.

I was busy enough, but I really didn't feel

that I was doing very much that was significant or important.

I was really struggling.

I thought I had a pretty good idea

of what success looked like in a working career,

but when it came to retirement, it was fuzzier for me.

So I decided to dig deeper.

And what I discovered was that much of the material on retirement

focuses on the financial and/or the estate side of things.

And of course, they're both important but just not what I was looking for.

So I interviewed dozens and dozens of retirees,

and I asked them the question,

“How do you squeeze all the juice out of retirement?”

What I discovered was that there is a framework

that can help make sense of it all.

And that's what I want to share with you today.

You see, there are four distinct phases

that most of us move through in retirement.

And as you'll see, it's not always a smooth ride.

In the next few minutes, you'll recognize which phase you're in if you're retired,

and if you're not,

you'll have a better idea of what to expect when that time comes.

And best of all, you'll know that there is a phase four -

the most gratifying, satisfying of the four phases -

and that's where you can squeeze all the juice out of retirement.

Phase one is the vacation phase, and that's just what it's like.

You wake up when you want, you do what you want all day.

And the best part is that there is no set routine.

For most people, phase one represents their view of an ideal retirement.

Relaxing, fun in the sun - freedom, baby.

(Laughter)

And for most folks, phase one lasts for about a year or so,

and then, strangely, it begins to lose its luster.

We begin to feel a bit bored.

We actually miss our routine.

Something in us seems to need one.

And we ask ourselves,

“Is that all there is to retirement?”

Now when these thoughts and feelings start to bubble up,

you have already moved into phase two.

Phase two is when we feel loss,

and we feel lost.

Phase two is when we lose the big five -

significant losses all associated with retirement.

We lose that routine.

We lose a sense of identity.

We lose many of the relationships that we had established at work.

We lose a sense of purpose.

And for some people, there is a loss of power.

Now, we don't see these things coming.

We didn't see these losses coming in because they happened all at once.

It's like, poof, gone.

It's traumatic.

Phase two is also when we come face to face with the three Ds:

divorce, depression and decline -

both physical and mental.

The result of all of this

is that we can feel like we've been hit by a bus.

You see, before we can appreciate and enjoy

some of the positive aspects associated with phase three and four,

you are going to, in phase two,

feel fear, anxiety and quite even depression.

That's just the way it is.

So buckle up and get ready.

Fortunately, at some point, most of us say to ourselves,

“Hey, I can't go on like this.

I don't want to spend the rest of my life,

perhaps 30 years, feeling like this.”

And when we do,

we've turned the corner to phase three.

Phase three is a time of trial and error.

In phase three, we ask ourselves,

“How can I make my life meaningful again?

How can I contribute?”

The answer often is to do things that you love to do

and do really well.

But phase three can also deliver some disappointment and failure.

For example,

I spent a couple of years serving on a condo board

until I finally got tired of being yelled at.

(Laughter)

You see, one year the board decided that we were going to plant daffodils

rather than the traditional daisies.

(Laughter)

And we got yelled at.

Go figure.

I thought about law school, thinking perhaps of becoming a paralegal.

And then I completed a program on dispute resolution.

It all went nowhere.

I love to write.

So I created a program called “Getting started on your memoirs.”

That program has met with “limited success.”

(Laughter)

It's been a rocky road for me too, and I told you to buckle up.

Now, I know all this can sound bad.

But it's really important to keep trying

and experimenting with different activities

that'll make you want to get up in the morning again

because if you don't,

there's a real good chance of slipping back into phase two,

feeling like you've been hit by a bus.

And that is not a happy prospect.

Not everyone breaks through to phase four,

but those who do are some of the happiest people

I have ever met.

Phase four is a time to reinvent and rewire.

But phase four involves answering some tough questions too,

like, “What's the purpose here? What's my mission?

How can I squeeze all the juice out of retirement?”

You see, it's important that we find activities that are meaningful to us

and that give us a sense of accomplishment.

And my experience is that it almost always involves service to others.

Maybe it's helping a charity that you care about.

Maybe you'll be like the old coots.

(Laughter) (Applause)

Yeah. These folks took a booth in the local farmers market

and were prepared to give their advice based on their vast years of experience

to anyone who came by.

So one of their first visitors was a kid who wanted help with his math homework

(Laughter)

on his tablet.

(Laughter)

They did the best they could.

Or maybe you'll be like my friend Bill.

I met Bill a few years ago in a 55 plus activity group.

In the summer, we golf together and walk together and bicycle together.

And in the winter, we curl.

But Bill had this idea

that we should exercise our brains as well.

He believed that there was a tremendous pool of expertise

and experience in our group,

and so he approached a number of folks

and asked if they would volunteer

to teach some of the things that they love to do

to others.

And almost invariably, they agreed.

Bill himself taught two sessions,

one on iPads and one on iPhones,

because we were smart enough to know that a number of our members

had been given these things as gifts at Christmas

(Laughter)

by their children,

and that they barely knew how to turn them on.

The first year, we offered nine programs, and there were 200 folks signed up.

The next year, that number expanded to 45 programs

with over 700 folks participating.

And the following year, we offered over 90 programs

and had 2100 registrations.

Amazing.

(Applause)

That was Bill.

Our members taught us to play bridge and mahjong.

They taught us to paint.

They taught us to repair our bicycles.

We tutored and mentored local school kids.

We set up English-as-a-second-language programs for newcomers.

We had book clubs. We had film clubs.

We even had a few golf clubs.

Exhausting but exhilarating.

That's what's possible in phase four.

And do you remember the five losses that we talked about in phase two?

The loss of our routine and identity

and relationships and purpose and power?

In phase four, these are all recovered.

It is magic to see, magic.

So, I urge you to enjoy your vacation in phase one.

(Laughter)

Be prepared for the losses in phase two.

Experiment and try as many different things as you can in phase three,

and squeeze all the juice out of retirement in phase four.

(Applause)

The 4 phases of retirement | Dr. Riley Moynes | TEDxSurrey Las 4 fases de la jubilación | Dr. Riley Moynes | TEDxSurrey

Transcriber: Zsófia Herczeg Reviewer: Peter Van de Ven

Everyone says you have to get ready to retire financially.

And of course you do.

But what they don't tell you is that you also have to get ready

psychologically.

Who knew?

But it's important for a couple of reasons.

First, 10,000 North Americans will retire today

and every day for the next 10 to 15 years.

This is a retirement tsunami.

And when these folks come crashing onto the beach,

a lot of them are going to feel like fish out of water

without a clue as to what to expect.

Secondly, it's important because there is a very good chance

that you will live one third of your life in retirement.

So it's important that you have a heads up to the fact

that there will be significant psychological changes

and challenges that come with it.

I belong to a walking group that meets early three mornings a week.

Our primary goal is to put 10,000 steps on our Fitbits,

and then we go for coffee and cinnamon buns -

(Laughter)

more important.

(Laughter) (Applause)

So as we walk, we've gotten into the habit of choosing a topic for discussion.

And one day, the topic was,

“How do you squeeze all that juice out of retirement?”

How's that for 7:00 in the morning?

So we walk and we talk, and the next day, we go on to the next topic.

But the question stayed with me

because I was really having some challenges with retirement.

I was busy enough, but I really didn't feel

that I was doing very much that was significant or important.

I was really struggling.

I thought I had a pretty good idea

of what success looked like in a working career,

but when it came to retirement, it was fuzzier for me.

So I decided to dig deeper.

And what I discovered was that much of the material on retirement

focuses on the financial and/or the estate side of things.

And of course, they're both important but just not what I was looking for.

So I interviewed dozens and dozens of retirees,

and I asked them the question,

“How do you squeeze all the juice out of retirement?”

What I discovered was that there is a framework

that can help make sense of it all.

And that's what I want to share with you today.

You see, there are four distinct phases

that most of us move through in retirement.

And as you'll see, it's not always a smooth ride.

In the next few minutes, you'll recognize which phase you're in if you're retired,

and if you're not,

you'll have a better idea of what to expect when that time comes.

And best of all, you'll know that there is a phase four -

the most gratifying, satisfying of the four phases -

and that's where you can squeeze all the juice out of retirement.

Phase one is the vacation phase, and that's just what it's like.

You wake up when you want, you do what you want all day.

And the best part is that there is no set routine.

For most people, phase one represents their view of an ideal retirement.

Relaxing, fun in the sun - freedom, baby.

(Laughter)

And for most folks, phase one lasts for about a year or so,

and then, strangely, it begins to lose its luster.

We begin to feel a bit bored.

We actually miss our routine.

Something in us seems to need one.

And we ask ourselves,

“Is that all there is to retirement?”

Now when these thoughts and feelings start to bubble up,

you have already moved into phase two.

Phase two is when we feel loss,

and we feel lost.

Phase two is when we lose the big five -

significant losses all associated with retirement.

We lose that routine.

We lose a sense of identity.

We lose many of the relationships that we had established at work.

We lose a sense of purpose.

And for some people, there is a loss of power.

Now, we don't see these things coming.

We didn't see these losses coming in because they happened all at once.

It's like, poof, gone.

It's traumatic.

Phase two is also when we come face to face with the three Ds:

divorce, depression and decline -

both physical and mental.

The result of all of this

is that we can feel like we've been hit by a bus.

You see, before we can appreciate and enjoy

some of the positive aspects associated with phase three and four,

you are going to, in phase two,

feel fear, anxiety and quite even depression.

That's just the way it is.

So buckle up and get ready.

Fortunately, at some point, most of us say to ourselves,

“Hey, I can't go on like this.

I don't want to spend the rest of my life,

perhaps 30 years, feeling like this.”

And when we do,

we've turned the corner to phase three.

Phase three is a time of trial and error.

In phase three, we ask ourselves,

“How can I make my life meaningful again?

How can I contribute?”

The answer often is to do things that you love to do

and do really well.

But phase three can also deliver some disappointment and failure.

For example,

I spent a couple of years serving on a condo board

until I finally got tired of being yelled at.

(Laughter)

You see, one year the board decided that we were going to plant daffodils

rather than the traditional daisies.

(Laughter)

And we got yelled at.

Go figure.

I thought about law school, thinking perhaps of becoming a paralegal.

And then I completed a program on dispute resolution.

It all went nowhere.

I love to write.

So I created a program called “Getting started on your memoirs.”

That program has met with “limited success.”

(Laughter)

It's been a rocky road for me too, and I told you to buckle up.

Now, I know all this can sound bad.

But it's really important to keep trying

and experimenting with different activities

that'll make you want to get up in the morning again

because if you don't,

there's a real good chance of slipping back into phase two,

feeling like you've been hit by a bus.

And that is not a happy prospect.

Not everyone breaks through to phase four,

but those who do are some of the happiest people

I have ever met.

Phase four is a time to reinvent and rewire.

But phase four involves answering some tough questions too,

like, “What's the purpose here? What's my mission?

How can I squeeze all the juice out of retirement?”

You see, it's important that we find activities that are meaningful to us

and that give us a sense of accomplishment.

And my experience is that it almost always involves service to others.

Maybe it's helping a charity that you care about.

Maybe you'll be like the old coots.

(Laughter) (Applause)

Yeah. These folks took a booth in the local farmers market

and were prepared to give their advice based on their vast years of experience

to anyone who came by.

So one of their first visitors was a kid who wanted help with his math homework

(Laughter)

on his tablet.

(Laughter)

They did the best they could.

Or maybe you'll be like my friend Bill.

I met Bill a few years ago in a 55 plus activity group.

In the summer, we golf together and walk together and bicycle together.

And in the winter, we curl.

But Bill had this idea

that we should exercise our brains as well.

He believed that there was a tremendous pool of expertise

and experience in our group,

and so he approached a number of folks

and asked if they would volunteer

to teach some of the things that they love to do

to others.

And almost invariably, they agreed.

Bill himself taught two sessions,

one on iPads and one on iPhones,

because we were smart enough to know that a number of our members

had been given these things as gifts at Christmas

(Laughter)

by their children,

and that they barely knew how to turn them on.

The first year, we offered nine programs, and there were 200 folks signed up.

The next year, that number expanded to 45 programs

with over 700 folks participating.

And the following year, we offered over 90 programs

and had 2100 registrations.

Amazing.

(Applause)

That was Bill.

Our members taught us to play bridge and mahjong.

They taught us to paint.

They taught us to repair our bicycles.

We tutored and mentored local school kids.

We set up English-as-a-second-language programs for newcomers.

We had book clubs. We had film clubs.

We even had a few golf clubs.

Exhausting but exhilarating.

That's what's possible in phase four.

And do you remember the five losses that we talked about in phase two?

The loss of our routine and identity

and relationships and purpose and power?

In phase four, these are all recovered.

It is magic to see, magic.

So, I urge you to enjoy your vacation in phase one.

(Laughter)

Be prepared for the losses in phase two.

Experiment and try as many different things as you can in phase three,

and squeeze all the juice out of retirement in phase four.

(Applause)