雲裡 找門 ： 林懷民 (Hwai-Min Lin) at TEDxTaipei 2013 In the Clouds, Finding a Door: Hwai-Min Lin at TEDxTaipei 2013

各位 朋友 大家 好 everyone|friends|all|good Hello everyone, friends.

我 是 林懷民 I|am|Lin Hwai-min I am Hwai-Min Lin.

我 覺得 我 是 一個 滾動 的 石頭 I feel like I am a rolling stone.

我 永遠 在 東張西望 I|forever|at|looking around restlessly I am always looking around.

希望 看到 一個 更 明亮 的 太陽 hope|see|a|more|bright|possessive particle|sun I hope to see a brighter sun.

如果 明天 跟 今天 完全 一樣 的話 if|tomorrow|with|today|completely|the same|if If tomorrow is exactly the same as today,

我 肯定 是 不要 起床 的 I|definitely|am|not|get up|past action particle I definitely won't get out of bed.

我 大一 的 時候 進 了 政大 念 法律系 I|freshman year|possessive particle|when|entered|past tense marker|National Chengchi University|study|Law Department I entered National Chengchi University to study law in my freshman year.

一年 後 轉到 新聞系 one year|later|transferred to|journalism department After a year, I transferred to the journalism department.

到 美國 繼續 念 新聞 一個 學期 之後 to|America|continue|study|journalism|one|semester|after After continuing to study journalism in the United States for a semester

轉到 英文系 的 小說 創作 班 transfer to|English department|possessive particle|novel|creative writing|class I transferred to the English department's creative writing class

同時 開始 跳舞 at the same time|start|dancing At the same time, I started dancing

25 歲 我 回到 政大 教書 years old|I|returned to|National Chengchi University|teach At 25, I returned to National Chengchi University to teach

大概 是 最 年輕 的 講師 probably|is|most|young|possessive particle|lecturer I was probably the youngest lecturer.

第二年 ，我 給 自己 闖 了 大禍 second year|I|gave|myself|caused|past tense marker|great disaster In the second year, I got myself into big trouble.

我 創辦 了 「雲門舞集 」 I|founded|past tense marker|Cloud Gate Dance Theatre I founded the "Cloud Gate Dance Theatre."

（笑聲 ） laughter (Laughter)

（掌聲 ） applause (Applause)

「 雲門 」， 是 台灣 第一個 職業 的 舞團 "Cloud Gate" is Taiwan's first professional dance company.

在 這 之前 ，沒有人 以 藝術性 的 before|this|prior|no one|with|artistic|possessive particle Before this, no one could make a living through artistic

舞蹈 表演 能夠 安身立命 dance|performance|can|find a stable livelihood dance performances.

所以 ，大家 都 覺得 so|everyone|all|feels So, everyone thought

這個 年輕人 很 好 ，怎麼 變成 這個 樣子 this|young man|very|good|how|became|this|appearance this young man is great, how did he become like this?

大家 嚇了一跳 ，同時 ， everyone|was startled|at the same time Everyone was shocked, at the same time,

我 的 朋友 說 ：你 頭殼 壞去 嗎 ？ I|possessive particle|friend|said|you|head|gone bad|question particle My friend said: Are you out of your mind?

我 的 父親 ，就 跟 我 說 一句 話 ，他 說 ： I|possessive particle|father|then|with|me|said|one|sentence|he|said My father then said to me,

「舞蹈家 呢 ，是 所有 的 藝術家 裡面 最 偉大 的 ， dancer|question particle|is|all|possessive particle|artists|among|most|great|particle indicating possession "Dancers are the greatest among all artists,

因為 他 用 身體 來 作 表達 ，最 辛苦 、最難 」 because|he|uses|body|to|perform|expression|most|difficult|hardest because they express themselves with their bodies, the hardest and most difficult."

「但是 ，」他 說 ， but|he|said "But," he said,

「跳舞 可能 是 乞丐 的 行業 啦 」 dancing|might|is|beggar|possessive particle|profession|sentence-final particle "Dancing might be the profession of a beggar."

十年 前 ，我 的 母親 過世 之後 ten years|ago|I|possessive particle|mother|passed away|after Ten years ago, after my mother passed away,

我們 在 她 的 遺物 裡面 發現 we|in|her|possessive particle|belongings|inside|discovered we found among her belongings

有 一個 用 我 的 名字 的 存摺 there is|a|using|my|possessive particle|name|possessive particle|passbook a savings account in my name,

裡面 有 一百多萬 inside|has|over one million with over a million inside.

我 才 意識到 說 I|just|realized|speaking I just realized that.

原來 ，三十年 過去 了 ， it turns out|thirty years|have passed|past tense marker It turns out, thirty years have passed.

她 始終 在 擔心 着 she|always|in|worrying|continuous aspect particle She has always been worried.

這個 兒子 有 一天 會 餓死 this|son|has|one day|will|starve to death That this son would one day starve.

所以 她 就 省吃儉用 幫 我 存 了 這個 存摺 so|she|then|live frugally|helped|me|save|past tense marker|this|savings book So she saved and scrimped to help me save this passbook.

我 其他 兄弟 都 沒有 I|other|brothers|all|do not have None of my other brothers did.

為 什麼 我 做 這個 事 呢 ？ why|this|I|do|this|thing|question particle Why am I doing this?

我 的 父母親 從小 要求 我們 要 服務 人群 I|possessive particle|parents|from a young age|required|us|to|serve|community My parents required us to serve the community since we were young.

我 在 60 年代 成長 I|in|the 1960s|grew up I grew up in the 1960s.

60 年代 是 年輕人 的 世代 decade|is|young people|possessive particle|generation The 1960s was a generation of young people.

披頭四 、嬉皮 The Beatles|hippie The Beatles, hippies

年輕人 反戰 、金恩 博士 說 ：我 有 一個 夢 young people|anti-war|King|Dr|said|I|have|a|dream Young people against the war, Dr. King said: I have a dream

那 是 一個 民權運動 的 一個 開端 、 一個 高潮 That was the beginning of a civil rights movement, a climax

他們 果然 做出 了 很多 的 事情 They|as expected|accomplished|past tense marker|many|possessive particle|things They indeed accomplished a lot of things

60 年代 教 我們 說 年輕人 有 責任 ，而且 有 能力 decade|taught|us|that|young people|have|responsibility|and|have|ability The 1960s taught us that young people have responsibilities and capabilities

來 改變 社會 來 改變 這個 世界 come|change|society|come|change|this|world Come to change society, come to change this world.

我 回到 台灣 的 時候 ，遇到 一些 很 愛 跳舞 的 女孩子 I|returned|Taiwan|possessive particle|when|encountered|some|very|love|dancing|possessive particle|girls When I returned to Taiwan, I met some girls who loved to dance.

那 我 就 說 ，台灣 人 很 喜歡 看 跳舞 then|I|will|say|Taiwan|people|very|like|watching|dancing So I said, Taiwanese people really like to watch dancing.

可是 沒有 自己 的 團 but|doesn't have|own|possessive particle|team But there isn't a group of their own.

我們 來 成立 自己 的 團 we|come|establish|our own|possessive particle|team Let's establish our own group.

說 得 很 容易 阿 speak|particle indicating degree|very|easy|ah It's easy to say.

不過 那個 時候 ，我們 心裡 想 的 舞台 but|that|time|we|in our hearts|imagined|possessive particle|stage However, at that time, the stage we envisioned,

不在 紐約 、倫敦 、巴黎 、莫斯科 not in|New York|London|Paris|Moscow was not in New York, London, Paris, or Moscow.

我們 想 的 說 小小 十來個 人 we|want|possessive particle|to say|very small|about ten|people We imagined a small group of about ten people,

可以 到 學校 為 學生 演出 can|arrive at|school|for|students|performance who could perform for students at schools.

到 社區 為民眾 演出 arrive|community|for the public|performance Performing for the community for the public.

因為 父母親 的 話 because|parents|possessive particle|words Because of what my parents said.

他們 的 警告 they|possessive particle|warning Their warnings.

當 開始 的 時候 我 就 知道 when|started|possessive particle|time|I|already|knew I knew from the beginning.

這輩子 ，我 可能 不能 買 自己 的 房子 this lifetime|I|probably|cannot|buy|my own|possessive particle|house In this lifetime, I might not be able to buy my own house.

但是 ，頭殼 都 壞去 了 ，所以 就 繼續 做 but|head|all|broken|past tense marker|so|then|continue|doing But the head is already broken, so I just continue to do it.

所以 1973 年 9 月 29 日 ， so|year|month|day So on September 29, 1973,

雲門舞集 在 台 中 中興 堂 做 創團 的 首演 Cloud Gate Dance Theatre|at|||||held|founding|possessive particle|premiere Cloud Gate Dance Theatre had its inaugural performance at the Chung Hsing Hall in Taichung.

今天 早上 ，我 忽然 發現 today|morning|I|suddenly|realized This morning, I suddenly realized

今天 正是 雲門 創團 首演 的 40 週年 紀念日 Today|is exactly|Cloud Gate|founding|premiere|possessive particle|anniversary|commemorative day that today marks the 40th anniversary of Cloud Gate's inaugural performance.

（掌聲 ） applause (Applause)

謝謝 thank you Thank you

台中 演 完 了 我們 搬 到 中山堂 演 Taichung|performance|finished|past tense marker|we|move|to|Zhongshan Hall|performance After the performance in Taichung, we moved to Zhongshan Hall for the show.

繼續 在 賣票 賣掉 三千 多張 ，外面 還有 黃牛 continue|at|selling tickets|sold|three thousand|more than|outside|still has|scalpers We continue to sell tickets, having sold over three thousand, and there are still scalpers outside.

大家 都 非常 高興 ，我 大概 有 三個 月 完全 的 精神 崩潰 everyone|all|very|happy|I|probably|have|three|months|completely|possessive particle|mental|breakdown Everyone is very happy, but I have probably had three months of complete mental breakdown.

因為 不止 雲門 是 一個 第一個 職業 舞團 because|not only|Cloud Gate|is|a|first|professional|dance troupe Because not only Cloud Gate is the first professional dance troupe.

沒有 前例 可 緣 ，沒有 這樣 的 生態 no|precedent|can|reason|no|such|possessive particle|ecology There are no precedents to rely on, and there is no such ecology.

更 重要 的 事情 是 ，我 跳舞 就 這麼 一點點 而已 more|important|possessive particle|thing|is|I|dance|only|this|little|only The more important thing is, I dance just a little bit.

我 跳舞 我 沒 編過 舞 阿 I|dance|I|not|choreographed|dance|ah I dance, but I haven't choreographed.

就 不 知道 在 想 什麼 then|not|know|at|thinking|what I just don't know what I'm thinking.

所以 我 那個 時候 就 開始 認真地 學習 編舞 so|I|that|time|then|started|seriously|learning|choreography So at that time, I started to seriously learn choreography.

這麼 多 年來 ，我 從 舞者 的 身上 so|many|over the years|I|from|dancer|possessive particle|from the dancer's body Over the years, I have seen from dancers,

看到 瞭解 到 什麼 叫做 身體 see|understand|to|what|is called|body understood what the body is,

什麼 叫做 動作 what|is called|action what movement is.

我 在 演出 的 場合 ，從 觀眾 的 反應 I|at|performance|possessive particle|occasion|from|audience|possessive particle|reaction In performance situations, I have observed the audience's reactions.

來 學習 怎麼樣 編 有效 溝通 的 舞 come|learn|how|to edit|effective|communication|possessive particle|dance Come learn how to choreograph effective communication.

但是 ，雲門 的 工作 不 只是 編舞 而已 but|Cloud Gate|possessive particle|work|not|only|choreography|nothing more However, Cloud Gate's work is not just about choreography.

在 這樣 的 環境 裡 ，在 70 年代 在 80 年代 in|such|possessive particle|environment|inside|in|decade|in|decade In such an environment, in the 70s and 80s.

阿 ～要 管 人事 行政 ，要 去 募款 Ah|needs to|manage|human resources|administration|needs to|go|fundraising Ah~ I have to manage personnel administration and fundraising.

對 我 來講 是 有點 艱難 的 事情 for|me|to speak|is|a little|difficult|possessive particle|thing For me, this is a bit of a difficult task.

出去 跟 人 伸手 、討錢 go out|with|person|reach out|ask for money Go out and stretch out your hand to ask people for money.

喔 ～我 爸爸 說過 這是 乞丐 的 行業 嘛 oh|I|dad|said before|this is|beggar|possessive particle|profession|question particle Oh~ My dad said this is the profession of beggars.

但是 ，我 從 一個 寫 小說 的 年輕人 but|I|from|a|writing|novel|possessive particle|young man But, I suddenly walked out of the study, out of the house,

忽然間 走出 書房 走出 房子 suddenly|walked out|study|walked out|house to make a request to people and ask them for help.

去 跟 人家 做 訴求 來 請 人家 幫忙 go|with|others|make|request|come|please|others|help and go ask people's help or share money.

我 覺得 因為 我 走 出來 了 I|feel|because|I|walk|out|past tense marker I feel that because I have come out.

像 從 這個 紅 框框 走 出來 like|from|this|red|box|walk|out It's like walking out of this red box.

它 是 一個 很棒 的 事情 ，我 開始 跟 很多 人 打 了 照面 it|is|a|great|(possessive particle)|thing|I|started|with|many|people|having|past tense marker|face-to-face meeting It's a great thing; I started to meet a lot of people.

我 開始 認識 很多 人 I|started|to know|many|people I began to get to know many people.

當 大家 拒絕 我 的 時候 when|everyone|rejected|me|possessive particle|time When everyone rejected me.

我 就 覺得 很 坦然 ，因為 我 小時候 I|just|feel|very|at ease|because|I|childhood I feel very calm because I started writing novels at the age of 14.

14 歲 開始 寫 小說 常常 被 退稿 years old|started|writing|novel|often|was|rejected I was often rejected.

這 退稿 是 應該 的 ，但是 有人 願意 幫助 你 的 時候 this|manuscript rejection|is|should|particle indicating possession|but|someone|willing|to help|you|particle indicating possession|time These rejections were expected, but when someone is willing to help you,

要 非常 的 珍惜 must|very|possessive particle|cherish you must cherish it very much.

那 是 一輩子 的 恩情 that|is|lifetime|possessive particle|kindness That is a lifelong gratitude.

因為 別人 來 找 我 做 什麼 我 不 一定 會 答應 阿 because|others|come|to find|me|do|anything|I|not|necessarily|will|agree|ah Because when others come to ask me to do something, I won't necessarily agree.

同時 也 要 意識到 at the same time|also|need to|be aware of At the same time, I also need to be aware of.

那些 協助 跟 鼓勵 後面 的 一個 期待 those|assistance|and|encouragement|behind|possessive particle|one|expectation The expectations behind that assistance and encouragement.

所以 我 就 背著 這樣 的 一個 心情 繼續 找 so|I|then|carrying|this kind of|possessive particle|one|mood|continue|searching So I continue to search with this kind of mindset.

阿 有時候 一天 工作 要 到 18 小時 、20 小時 ah|sometimes|one day|work|needs|until|hours|hours Ah, sometimes a day's work can take 18 hours or 20 hours.

到 今天 為止 我 差不多 工作 也 要 工作 到 16 小時 until|today|by|I|almost|work|also|have to|work|until|hours As of today, I have almost been working for 16 hours.

不 只是 創作 not|just|creation It's not just about creation.

也 要 學習 生活 、學會 怎樣 變 頭腦 去 創作 also|need to|learn|life|learn how to|how|change|mindset|to|create I also need to learn about life and how to change my mindset to create.

但是 其他 的 事情 ，也 要 照顧 到 but|other|possessive particle|things|also|need to|take care of|into consideration However, I also need to take care of other things.

為 什麼 呢 ？ why|what|question particle Why is that?

因為 我 手頭上 捧著 的 because|I|at hand|holding|possessive particle Because what I hold in my hands

是 許多 舞者 的 青春 is|many|dancers|possessive particle|youth is the youth of many dancers

當 他們 的 同學 都 開 了 舞蹈社 when|they|possessive particle|classmates|all|opened|past tense marker|dance club when their classmates have all started dance clubs

買 了 汽車 、付 了 房貸 buy|past tense marker|car|pay|past tense marker|mortgage bought cars, paid mortgages

開始 住進 公寓 、大樓 的 時候 start|moving into|apartment|building|possessive particle|when and begun to move into apartments and buildings.

他們 非常 辛苦 的 they|very|hard|possessive particle They work very hard.

一天 八小時 跳舞 ，然後 收入 非常 的 微薄 one day|eight hours|dancing|then|income|very|possessive particle|meager They dance for eight hours a day, and their income is very meager.

我 覺得 ， 我 不能 辜負 他們 I feel that I cannot let them down.

而 其他 的 人 ，對 雲門 有 幫助 的 人 but|other|possessive particle|people|towards|Cloud Gate|have|help|possessive particle|people And the others, the people who have helped Cloud Gate.

我 不能 ，辜負 他們 的 期待 I|cannot|disappoint|them|possessive particle|expectations I cannot let down their expectations.

也許 是 更 重要 的 ，我 覺得 maybe|is|more|important|particle|I|feel Maybe it's more important, I think.

我 不 應該 背棄 年輕 時 出發 的 I|not|should|abandon|youth|time|departure|possessive particle I shouldn't abandon the starting point of my youth.

一點點 “頭殼壞去 ”那樣 的 一個 想像 a little bit|crazy|like that|possessive particle|a|imagination A little bit of that 'crazy' kind of imagination.

我 必須 去 證明 我 頭殼 沒有 壞 去 I|must|go|prove|my|head|not|broken|go I must prove that my mind is not crazy.

我要 證明 說 是 你們 頭殼壞去 啦 I want|to prove|saying|is|you (plural)|crazy|particle indicating finality or emphasis I want to prove that it's you who are crazy.

（掌聲 ） applause (Applause)

但是 雲門舞集 還是 在 1988 年 宣佈 暫停 but|Cloud Gate Dance Theatre|still|in|year|announced|suspension However, the Cloud Gate Dance Theatre announced a suspension in 1988.

因為 我 等於 一出 了 學校 進入 社會 because|I|equals|as soon as|past tense marker|school|enter|society Because I had basically just graduated and entered society.

所謂 進入 社會 就是 進入 雲門 這個 很 奇怪 的 一個 行業 so-called|entering|society|is|entering|Cloud Gate|this|very|strange|possessive particle|a|industry What entering society means is entering this very strange industry of Cloud Gate.

我 就 一直 覺得 我 好像 掉到 ， I|just|always|feel|I|seem|fall into I have always felt like I fell into,

我 好像 住 在 一個 洗衣機 裡面 迴旋 的 在 那邊 攪動 着 I|seem|live|in|a|washing machine|inside|spinning|particle|at|there|agitating|continuous aspect particle I feel like I live inside a washing machine, spinning around and stirring things up.

快樂 嗎 ？沒有 想過 happy|question particle|have not|thought about Am I happy? I haven't thought about it.

但是 大概 還 可以 活下去 吧 but|probably|still|can|live|sentence final particle But I guess I can still survive.

我 是 這樣 想 的 I|am|this way|think|past action particle That's how I think.

我 一直 把 自己 當作 一個 I|always|(verb particle)|myself|regard as|a I have always regarded myself as a.

雲門 的 一個 小 齒輪 、一個 小 棋子 Yunmen|possessive particle|a|small|gear|a|small|chess piece A small gear of Cloud Gate, a small chess piece.

報紙 上 登 的 那個 林懷民 跟 得獎 的 林懷民 newspaper|on|published|possessive particle|that|Lin Hwai-min|and|award-winning|possessive particle|Lin Hwai-min The Lin Hwai-min in the newspaper and the award-winning Lin Hwai-min.

他 不會 跟 我 一起 回家 He|will not|with|me|together|go home He will not go home with me.

我 還是 過 我 的 日子 I|still|live|my|possessive particle|life I will still live my life.

我 是 過 我 的 工作 I|am|past|my|possessive particle|work I am living my work.

因為 ，如果 我 把 自己 弄 得 很大 的話 because|if|I|(verb particle)|myself|make|(complement particle)|very big|then Because if I make myself very big,

也許 台灣 容不下 我 maybe|Taiwan|cannot accommodate|me maybe Taiwan can't accommodate me.

也許 ，我 離開 台灣 maybe|I|leave|Taiwan Maybe I will leave Taiwan.

我 不能 想像 外國 的 藝術家 是 怎樣 I|cannot|imagine|foreign|possessive particle|artist|is|like I can't imagine what foreign artists are like.

不是 我們 在 台灣 、在 這樣 的 時代 not|we|in|Taiwan|in|such|possessive particle|era It's not like us in Taiwan, in this kind of era.

在 這樣 的 環境 工作 in|such|possessive particle|environment|work Working in such an environment

我 覺得 我 是 一個 齒輪 、 小齒輪 I feel like I am a gear, a small gear

我 就 這樣 工作 I|just|like this|work I just work like this

但是 齒輪 也 會 有 疲倦 的 時候 but|gear|also|will|have|fatigue|possessive particle|time But gears can also get tired sometimes

因為 ，1983 年 我 創辦 了 今天 北藝大 的 舞蹈系 because|year|I|founded|past tense marker|today|National Taipei University of the Arts|possessive particle|Dance Department Because, in 1983, I founded the dance department of National Taipei University of the Arts today

所以 雲門 、舞蹈系 ，蠟燭 兩頭 燒 so|Cloud Gate|Dance Department|candle|at both ends|burn So, Cloud Gate, the dance department, is burning the candle at both ends.

到 了 88 年 的 時候 我 發覺 arrive|past tense marker|year|possessive particle|time|I|realized By the time it was 1988, I realized.

我 完全 的 力竭 I|completely|possessive particle|exhausted I was completely exhausted.

同時 我 要 必須 面對 的 是 at the same time|I|want|must|face|possessive particle|is At the same time, I had to face.

資深 的 舞者 ，當年 餓著 肚子 一起 跳舞 、創團 的 舞者 senior|possessive particle|dancer|back then|starving|stomach|together|danced|founded the troupe|possessive particle|dancer The senior dancers, who danced together with empty stomachs and founded the company.

他們 結婚 了 、有 孩子 了 They|got married|past tense marker|have|child|past tense marker They got married and had children.

我 不 知道 如何 安頓 他們 的 下半生 I|not|know|how|settle|them|possessive particle|second half of life I don't know how to settle their later life.

那麼 ，我要 面對 我 自己 then|I want to|face|I|myself So, I have to face myself.

當我 這麼 忙碌 ，我 還 能夠 編出 更好 的 舞 嗎 when I|so|busy|I|still|able to|create|better|(possessive particle)|dance|question particle When I am so busy, can I still create better dances?

所以 ，1986 年 我 決定 把 雲門 暫停 so|year|I|decided|(particle indicating disposal)|Cloud Gate|suspend So, in 1986, I decided to pause Cloud Gate.

88 年 宣佈 的 時候 ，整個 社會 也 惋惜 year|announced|possessive particle|time|whole|society|also|mourned When it was announced in 1988, the whole society also expressed regret.

惋惜 的 聲音 regret|possessive particle|voice Voices of regret.

可是 我 覺得 把 雲門 停掉 but|I|think|(particle indicating disposal)|Yunmen|stop But I think stopping Cloud Gate

是 我 一輩子 裡面 最好 的 作品 之一 is|I|lifetime|among|best|possessive particle|work|one of is one of the best works of my life.

因為 你 面對 了 、 你 反省 了 Because you faced it, you reflected on it.

你 知道 你 不行 了 you|know|you|can't|past tense marker You know you can't do it anymore.

所以 我們 用 了 兩年 的 時間 ，來 執行 這個 暫停 的 計劃 so|we|used|past tense marker|two years|possessive particle|time|to|execute|this|suspension|possessive particle|plan So we took two years to implement this suspension plan.

安頓 了 資深 的 舞者 settled|past tense marker|senior|possessive particle|dancer We settled the senior dancers.

讓 他們 找到 新 的 工作 let|them|find|new|possessive particle|job Let them find new jobs.

安排 年輕 的 舞者 到 美國 繼續 學習 arrange|young|possessive particle|dancer|to|America|continue|studying Arranged for young dancers to continue their studies in the United States.

當 雲門 停掉 的 時候 when|Cloud Gate|stops|past tense marker|time When Cloud Gate stopped.

雲門 手頭上 有 八國 的 邀約 Cloud Gate|on hand|has|eight countries|possessive particle|invitations Cloud Gate had invitations from eight countries.

從來 沒有 這麼 多 never|had|so|much There has never been so many.

但是 不足 惋惜 but|insufficient|regret But it's not regrettable.

因為 八國 邀約 只不過 是 坐 了 很 多次 飛機 because|eight countries|invitation|only|was|took|past tense marker|very|many times|flights Because the invitations from eight countries just meant taking many flights.

下來 一樣 沒有 錢 、人 更累 所以 就 停掉 了 come down|the same|have not|money|people|more tired|so|then|stopped|past tense marker Come down, still no money, people are even more tired, so it was stopped.

1990 年 我 從 美國 回到 台北 第二天 year|I|from|the United States|returned to|Taipei|the next day In 1990, I returned to Taipei from the United States the next day.

一個 計程車 司機 問 我 說 a|taxi|driver|asked|me|said A taxi driver asked me.

雲門 為 什麼 停掉 了 ？ Cloud Gate|for|what|stopped|past tense marker Why was Cloud Gate stopped?

我 說 ，表演藝術 在 台灣 是 很 難 的 I|say|performing arts|in|Taiwan|is|very|difficult|(particle indicating past action or completed state) I said, performing arts are very difficult in Taiwan.

我 就 告訴 他 很多很多 的 事 I|then|told|him|a lot of|possessive particle|things I told him a lot of things.

他 表示 他 的 理解 跟 同情 he|expressed|his|possessive particle|understanding|and|sympathy He expressed his understanding and sympathy.

但是 ，我要 下車 前 but|I want|to get off|before However, before I got off the car,

他 跟 我 說 ：林 老師 阿 He|with|me|said|Lin|teacher|a particle used for emphasis he said to me: Teacher Lin,

在 台北 這樣 的 混亂 的 交通 裡頭 討生活 ，也 不好過 in|Taipei|such|possessive particle|chaotic|possessive particle|traffic|inside|make a living|also|not easy it's not easy to make a living in such chaotic traffic in Taipei.

每個 行業 都 有 它 艱難 的 地方 every|industry|all|has|its|difficult|possessive particle|aspects Every industry has its difficult aspects.

他 說 台灣 需要 有 雲門舞集 He|says|Taiwan|needs|to have|Cloud Gate Dance Theatre He said Taiwan needs Cloud Gate Dance Theatre.

他 車子 開 的 時候 他 喊 ：林 老師 加油 ！ he|car|drives|past tense marker|when|he|shouted|Lin|teacher|go for it While driving, he shouted: "Go, Teacher Lin!"

我 站 在 路邊 I|stand|at|roadside I stood by the roadside.

非常 的 ，羞愧 very|possessive particle|ashamed Very much, ashamed.

因為 這裡面 ，不 只是 自己 背棄 了 出發 的 because|in this|not|only|oneself|betray|past tense marker|departure|possessive particle Because within this, it is not just abandoning one's own departure.

那 一點 對 自己 的 想像 和 期待 that|a little|towards|oneself|possessive particle|imagination|and|expectation That little bit of imagination and expectation for oneself.

也 背棄 了 許多 支持 雲門 的 人 also|betrayed|past tense marker|many|support|Yunmen|possessive particle|people It also abandons many people who support Cloud Gate.

背棄 了 年輕 時代 abandon|past tense marker|youth|era Abandoning the youth era.

覺得 要 去 服務 的 基層 的 民眾 feel|need|go|serve|possessive particle|grassroots|possessive particle|people Feeling the need to serve the grassroots people.

1991 年 雲門 復出 year|Cloud Gate|comeback In 1991, Cloud Gate made a comeback.

這個 時候 我們 發現 this|time|we|discovered At this time, we discovered.

再度 肯定 ，我 自己 再度 肯定 again|affirm|I|myself|again|affirm Once again affirming, I reaffirmed myself.

這是 最好 的 作品 this is|best|possessive particle|work This is the best work.

因為 雲門 的 暫停 ，成為 復出 後 的 雲門 最大 的 資產 because|Cloud Gate|possessive particle|suspension|became|comeback|after|possessive particle|Cloud Gate|largest|possessive particle|asset Because of Cloud Gate's pause, it became the greatest asset after the comeback.

在 離開 雲門 的 三 年間 during|leaving|Yunmen|possessive particle|three|years In the three years since leaving Cloud Gate

我 在 東南亞 逛來逛去 I|in|Southeast Asia|wander around I have been wandering around Southeast Asia

豐富 了 我 的 視野 、豐富 我 的 人生 enrich|past tense marker|I|possessive particle|vision|enrich|I|possessive particle|life enriching my perspective and enriching my life

我們 的 技術 總監 林克華 先生 到 耶魯 深造 we|possessive particle|technology|director|Mr Linkhua|Mr|to|Yale|pursue advanced studies Our technical director, Mr. Lin Kehua, went to Yale for further studies

行政 總監 溫慧玟 小姐 到 美國 去 拿 了 個 ＭＦＡ （藝術創作 碩士 ） administrative|director|Wen Huiwen|Miss|to|the United States|go|obtain|past tense marker|measure word|MFA|artistic creation|master's degree Our executive director, Ms. Wen Huiwen, went to the United States to obtain an MFA (Master of Fine Arts)

回來 的 時候 我們 不是 熱情 的 、頭殼壞去 的 年輕人 come back|possessive particle|time|we|are not|enthusiastic|particle indicating past action|crazy|particle indicating past action|young people When we came back, we were not the passionate, crazy young people.

我們 好像 成熟 一點 we|seem|mature|a little We seemed to be a little more mature.

我們 好像 有 一點點 專業 的 概念 we|seem|have|a little|professional|possessive particle|concept We seemed to have a bit of a professional concept.

同時 ，最 偉大 的 事情 是 at the same time|most|great|possessive particle|thing|is At the same time, the greatest thing is that

解散 都 解散 了 disband|all|disband|past tense marker everything has been disbanded.

了不起 再 解散 一次 就 完 了 嘛 有 什麼 好怕 的 amazing|again|disband|once|then|finished|past action marker|particle indicating obviousness|have|what|to be afraid|possessive particle It's amazing, just disband again and it's done, what's there to be afraid of?

所以 復出 的 雲門 希望 朝著 整個 永續 的 方 向來 走 so|comeback|possessive particle|Cloud Gate|hopes|towards|whole|sustainable|possessive particle|direction|always|walk So the revival of Cloud Gate hopes to move towards a sustainable direction.

而 這個 時候 台灣 的 經濟 發展 的 一個 狀況 and|this|time|Taiwan|possessive particle|economy|development|possessive particle|a|situation And at this time, the economic development situation in Taiwan.

企業界 也 開始 幫 雲門 的 忙 business community|also|started|helping|Cloud Gate|possessive particle|busy The business community is also starting to help Cloud Gate.

所以 今天 在 創團 的 40 年 後 so|today|at|founding|possessive particle|years|after So today, 40 years after the founding of the group.

「雲門 二 」深入 偏鄉 小城 Cloud Gate|two|deep into|rural areas|small town "Cloud Gate II" delves into rural small towns.

去 演出 ，在 大學 裡頭 駐校 go|performance|at|university|inside|resident It performs in universities.

而 在 國泰 金融機構 的 支持 下 and|under|Cathay|financial institution|possessive particle|support|below With the support of Cathay Financial Holdings,

雲門 做 戶外 公演 18 年 Cloud Gate|will do|outdoor|performance|years Cloud Gate has been doing outdoor performances for 18 years.

每 一場 觀眾 至少 三萬 every|performance|audience|at least|thirty thousand Each performance attracts at least 30,000 audience members.

然後 有 的 到 了 八萬 then|have|possessive particle|reach|past tense marker|eighty thousand Then, there were eighty thousand.

這是 全世界 最大 的 一個 舞蹈 的 演出 this is|the world|largest|possessive particle|one|dance|possessive particle|performance This is the largest dance performance in the world.

秩序井然 ，離開 的 時候 orderly|leave|possessive particle|time The order was orderly when leaving.

廣場 上 沒有 一張 紙屑 square|on|there is not|a|piece of trash There was not a single piece of paper on the square.

台灣 人 是 很棒 的 Taiwanese people are great.

那 這裡面 也 代表 着 一個 大家 對 that|in this|also|represents|continuous aspect particle|one|everyone|correct Then this also represents a demand from everyone for

一個 精神 生活 的 需求 a|spiritual|life|possessive particle|need a spiritual life.

我 覺得 我要 做 得 更好 I feel that I need to do better.

在 國外 常常 有人 問 我 說 in|abroad|often|someone|asks|me|says People often ask me abroad,

你 到 偏鄉 去 演出 、 你 到 南部 到 台東 "You perform in remote areas, you go to the south, to Taitung."

去 演出 的 時候 ，你 是不是 推 另外 一個 節目 go|performance|past tense marker|when|you|is it not|push|another|one|program When you go to perform, are you promoting another show?

不是 的 is not|possessive particle No.

一樣 的 節目 ，是 在 紐約 、莫斯科 跟 巴黎 演出 same|possessive particle|show|is|in|New York|Moscow|and|Paris|performed It's the same show, performed in New York, Moscow, and Paris.

因為 台灣 就 這麼 大 because|Taiwan|only|this|big Because Taiwan is just this big.

我 必須 說 ，我 的 90 年代 以後 I|must|say|my|possessive particle|decade|after I have to say, after the 90s.

國際 上 一直 越來越 覺得 我 是 一個 好 的 編舞家 international|on|always|more and more|feels|I|am|a|good|possessive particle|choreographer Internationally, more and more people feel that I am a good choreographer.

我 是 這 幾萬 的 觀眾 訓練 出來 的 I|am|this|tens of thousands|possessive particle|audience|trained|out|past action particle I have been trained by these tens of thousands of audiences.

為 什麼 呢 ？ why|what|question particle Why is that?

因為 全 天下 沒有 不好 的 觀眾 because|all|world|there is no|bad|possessive particle|audience Because there are no bad audiences in the world.

只有 不好 的 演出 only|not good|possessive particle|performance There are only bad performances.

在 戶外 的 這樣 的 幾萬人 的 場合 裡頭 in|outdoors|possessive particle|like this|possessive particle|tens of thousands of people|possessive particle|occasion|inside In such an outdoor event with tens of thousands of people.

如果 你 不是 拿出 讓 他 目不轉睛 的 作品 的話 if|you|not|take out|make|him|captivated|possessive particle|work|conditional particle If you don't present a work that captivates their attention,

小朋友 就 開始 鬧 the child|then|started|to act up the children will start to make a fuss,

大人 就 走掉 adult|then|left and the adults will leave.

我要 把 他 耗 在 那裡 I want|to put|he|exhaust|at|there I want to keep them there.

所以 他們 給 我 最大 的 考驗 so|they|gave|me|biggest|possessive particle|test So they gave me the biggest test.

所以 ，只要 是 能夠 通得過 戶外 演出 的 幾萬 觀眾 的話 so|as long as|is|able to|pass through|outdoor|performance|possessive particle|tens of thousands|audience|if So, as long as it can pass through the tens of thousands of outdoor performance audiences,

我 想 紐約時報 也 要 買單 囉 I|want|New York Times|also|need|bill|sentence-final particle I think the New York Times will have to pay up too.

是的 yes That's right.

我 是 這些 基層 的 觀眾 ，訓練 出來 的 I|am|these|grassroots|possessive particle|audience|trained|out|past action particle I am trained by these grassroots audiences.

今年 四月 的 時候 this year|April|possessive particle|time In April of this year,

我 參加 大甲 媽祖 的 繞境 I|participate|Dajia|Mazu|possessive particle|pilgrimage I participated in the Dajia Mazu pilgrimage.

在 西洲 ， 在 一個 早上 三點鐘 ， at|Xizhou|at|one|morning|three o'clock In Xizhou, at three o'clock in the morning,

一位 農村 的 婦人 出來 ，拉著 我 的 手 a|rural|possessive particle|woman|came out|holding|me|possessive particle|hand a rural woman came out and took my hand,

跟 我 說 ：多謝 你 美麗 藝術 with|me|said|thank you|you|beautiful|art and said to me: Thank you for your beautiful art.

謝謝 你 美麗 的 藝術 thank you|you|beautiful|possessive particle|art Thank you for your beautiful art.

一句 話 ，從 基層 的 朋友 講 出來 a sentence|speech|from|grassroots|possessive particle|friend|spoken|out A sentence spoken by friends at the grassroots level.

我 覺得 ，阿 ～40 年 的 辛苦 I|feel|ah|years|possessive particle|hard work I feel, ah ~ 40 years of hard work.

可是 能夠 求魚 得魚 but|can|ask for fish|get fish But one can seek fish and catch fish.

能夠 這樣 子 的 把 頭髮 白掉 able to|like this|particle|possessive particle|to handle|hair|turn white Being able to turn one's hair white like this.

是 一件 幸福 的 事情 is|a|happy|possessive particle|thing It is a happy thing.

前 幾年 ，我 到 印度 previous|few years|I|went|India A few years ago, I went to India.

菩提伽耶 去 朝聖 ，那 是 佛祖 得 道 的 地方 Bodh Gaya|to go|pilgrimage|that|is|Buddha|attained|enlightenment|possessive particle|place I went to Bodh Gaya for pilgrimage, which is the place where the Buddha attained enlightenment.

菩提樹 枝葉 扶蘇 大概 就是 這個 天堂 這麼 大 Bodhi tree|branches and leaves|flourishing|probably|is just|this|heaven|so|big The Bodhi tree's branches and leaves are probably as vast as this paradise.

廟 關門 的 時候 我 走 出來 temple|closing|possessive particle|when|I|walk|out I walked out when the temple closed.

忽然間 後面 有 個人 問 我 說 suddenly|behind|there is|a person|asked|me|said Suddenly, someone behind me asked.

你 是 台灣 來 的 嗎 you|are|Taiwan|from|past action particle|question particle "Are you from Taiwan?"

我 回頭 一看 ，是 個 喇嘛 I|turn around|at a glance|is|a|lama I turned around and saw it was a lama.

可是 一口 漂亮 的 普通話 but|fluent|beautiful|possessive particle|Mandarin But he spoke beautiful Mandarin.

我 請 他 到 路邊 的 茶桌 去 喝茶 I|invite|him|to|roadside|possessive particle|tea table|go|drink tea I invited him to the tea table by the roadside to have tea.

他 告訴 我 ，他 山東人 he|told|me|he|Shandong person He told me that he is from Shandong.

為了 想當 喇嘛 in order to|want to be|lama In order to become a lama,

就 幾年 的 時間 打工 ，到 了 拉薩 only|a few years|possessive particle|time|working|arrived|past tense marker|Lhasa he worked for a few years and arrived in Lhasa.

在 廟裡頭 幫忙 in|the temple|help He helped out in the temple.

然後 ，他 想見 達賴喇嘛 then|he|wants to see|the Dalai Lama Then, he wanted to meet the Dalai Lama.

他 就 從 拉薩 往 尼泊爾 走 he|then|from|Lhasa|towards|Nepal|walk He walked from Lhasa to Nepal.

然後 到 了 邊界 被 解放軍 抓 回去 then|arrive|past tense marker|border|by|People's Liberation Army|catch|take back Then he reached the border and was captured by the People's Liberation Army.

關 了 一年 ，放 出來 他 繼續 走 closed|past tense marker|one year|let|out|he|continue|walk He was detained for a year, and when released, he continued to walk.

又 被 抓 回去 關 了 一年 多 again|by|caught|back|locked|past tense marker|one year|more than He was captured again and detained for more than a year.

他 第三次 偷渡 成功 ，到 了 達蘭薩拉 He|third time|illegal immigration|succeeded|arrived|past tense marker|Dharamsala He successfully crossed the border for the third time and arrived in Dharamshala.

他 見到 了 達賴喇嘛 He|saw|past tense marker|Dalai Lama He saw the Dalai Lama.

我 問 他 說 ，然後 你 現在 要 做 什麼 I|ask|he|said|then|you|now|need to|do|what I asked him, so what do you want to do now?

他 說 ：我 想 回 西藏 He|said|I|want|return|Tibet He said: I want to go back to Tibet.

我 說 ，阿 你 那次 不是 已經 被 人 抓 起來 了 I|said|ah|you|that time|not|already|by|people|caught|up|past tense marker I said, but weren't you already captured last time?

被 抓 起來 再 關 起來 be|caught|up|again|locked|up Captured and then locked up.

他 說 ：在 哪裡 都 是 一樣 的 He|said|at|anywhere|all|is|the same|(particle) He said: It's the same everywhere.

我 離開 他 之後 ，回過 頭去 I|leave|he|after|turned|head back After I left him, I turned back.

我 看 他 把 桌子 清一清 ，在 樹下 I|see|he|(particle indicating disposal)|table|clean up|at|under the tree I saw him clearing the table under the tree.

印度 的 一月 的 寒冬 The cold winter of January in India.

他 躺下去 ，把 那個 袈裟 一披 He|lay down|(indicates action)|that|kasaya|put on He lay down and draped the robe over himself.

他 睡覺 了 he|sleep|past tense marker He has gone to sleep.

在 哪裡 都 一樣 at|where|all|the same It’s the same everywhere.

原來 ，他 對 自己 的 那個 ‘我 '的 慾望 降到 最低 的 時候 it turns out|he|towards|himself|possessive particle|that|self|possessive particle|desire|lowered to|lowest|possessive particle|time It turns out that when he lowers his desire for that 'self' to the minimum.

沒有 不 可能 not|no|possible Nothing is impossible.

人生 ，沒有 任何 的 限制 life|no|any|possessive particle|restrictions In life, there are no limits.

年輕 的 時候 young|possessive particle|time When young

去 撞擊 、去 認識 自己 go|crash|go|understand|oneself to collide, to understand oneself

檢討 、反省 、往前走 review|self-reflection|move forward to review, to reflect, to move forward

是的 ，人生 不 設限 yes|life|not|set limits Yes, life has no limits

除非 ，你 給 自己 製造 障礙 unless|you|give|yourself|create|obstacles Unless you create obstacles for yourself

今天 很 高興 見到 很多 的 年輕 朋友 Today|very|happy|to see|many|possessive particle|young|friends Today I am very happy to see many young friends.

今天 很 高興 見到 很多 的 年輕 朋友 Today|very|happy|to see|many|possessive particle|young|friends Today I am very happy to see many young friends.

也許 是 另外 一個 ，但是 我們 相信 maybe|is|another|one|but|we|believe Maybe it's another one, but we believe.

每 一個 時代 都 有 他 的 限制 every|one|era|all|has|its|possessive particle|limitations Every era has its limitations.

可是 那個 限制 是 你 主觀 的 認定 but|that|limitation|is|you|subjective|possessive particle|judgment But that limitation is your subjective judgment.

不是 外面 加諸 於 你 的 not|outside|imposed|on|you|possessive particle It is not what is imposed on you from the outside.

最後 我 想 告訴 年輕 的 朋友 們 finally|I|want|to tell|young|possessive particle|friends|plural marker Finally, I want to tell the young friends.

年輕 的 另外 一個 名字 叫做 ：勇敢 young|possessive particle|another|one|name|is called|brave Another name for youth is: courage.

不要 害怕 do not|be afraid Do not be afraid.

（掌聲 ） applause (Applause)

謝謝 thank you Thank you